[asterisk-biz] Potential subject for Friday - Does the Asterisk community need a 3rd party commercial software ecosystem?

[Dean Collins]

Hi Justin, this didn't really get discussed as I had a client in town
this week for the last 4 days so no time to organize.

 

I'd like to do a properly planned call with someone from Digium, a few
potential users of the system (eg software developers who have small
apps to sell) and the regular listeners who are potential end users.

 

I'd also encourage people who think this will be the beginning of the
end (eg the closed source naysayers) to be involved as well because it's
their weekly conference call as well and their input has to be taken
into account.

 

My proposal as long as someone from Digium reads this and steps up to
the plate is that we hold this call in 2 weeks from today on the 25th of
April (I'll be at a client meeting next Friday).

 

So if Kevin/Bill/Mark or anyone else from Digium reads this and confirms
they are willing to discuss I already have had 3 software developers
reach out to say they would like to discuss this as well.

 

The balls in Digium's court.

 

 

Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean at cognation.net
<mailto:dean at cognation.net> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).

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Asteriskcommunity need a 3rd party commercial software ecosystem?

 

>1. Re: [asterisk-users] [VOIP-Users-Conference]    Potential
>      subject for Friday - Does the Asterisk community    need a 3rd
party
>      commercial software ecosystem? (Dean Collins)

I want to hear how this goes. Out sick.

 

I'd definitely be interested in contributing and it's about darn time!

 

Justin Newman

 

 


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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Dean Collins 

> Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2008 11:57 AM

> To: 'VOIP-Users-Conference at googlegroups.com'

> Cc: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial 

> Discussion'; Ast-biz (asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com)

> Subject: RE: [VOIP-Users-Conference] Potential subject for 

> Friday - Does the Asterisk community need a 3rd party 

> commercial software ecosystem?

> 

> Hi BJ,

> Further explanation about the 3rd party ecosystem question 

> this morning

> 

> Cory Andrews from VoIP supply was on the Voip-Users 

> conference call last week.

> 

> I asked the question - how much of VoIP Supply revenue is 

> product versus applications - he said we don't sell any 

> services such as ITSP hosted Asterisk so I replied that 

> wasn't what I was thinking of and gave the example of Snap 

> Dialer which is a low cost (I think I paid $20 for it) 

> application which allows me to dial names from outlook.

> 

> I then talked about some of the consulting I did for 

> Salesforce.com and how they have built an entire ecosystem of 

> third party applications all built by other people but 

> utilizing the documented API's and application security etc.

> 

> My comments were that although Asterisk should always remain 

> a free open source application that developers need to eat 

> and pay rent as well.

> 

> If there was some common marketplace that developers could 

> sell small - low cost third party applications to the 

> Asterisk community that Digium had some type of 

> overview/management control over who listed etc that this 

> would deliver a stream of revenue that would encourage 

> further application development.

> 

> The question I then posed to the group was if anyone knew how 

> Digium managed the sale and licensing of the G729 codes.

> 

> And if this was an open published standard that it could be 

> used as the basis for the Asterisk ecosystem license model.

> 

> Now I know it's not perfect and can be hacked but everything 

> can be hacked. The idea is to build apps cheap enough that 

> it's not worth the effort of hacking.

> 

> I know there were discussions in Mexuar about how we could 

> sell (read license) a single channel of the Mexuar Corraleta 

> application rather than the entire server license for $2000.

> 

> Earlier this week I sent an original email to Digium and told 

> Kevin was responsible for the G729 licenses so I was hoping 

> that this Friday we could get Kevin and possibly the 

> developers of Snap Dialer to talk about their current license 

> models and how they implemented payment systems and also 

> maybe the developer of FOP to discuss if this was available 

> to him and he was able to sell a 100 licenses or something 

> like that a month would this provide an income stream to 

> support further development etc.

> 

> Does this make sense?

> Does anyone have any comments or would you like to be 

> involved with Fridays call?

> 

> 

> 

> 

> Regards,

> 

> Dean Collins

> Cognation Pty Ltd

> dean at cognation.net

> +1-212-203-4357 Ph

> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).

 

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