[asterisk-biz] Happy Thanksgiving Day(was Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Ast erisk Company"))

[Nick Seraphin]

Yep... throw around the "bigot" word like it's water.  Everyone who
disagrees with you is a bigot.

No exceptions.  No arguments.  We're all bigots.

Hmmm... blindly labeling a group of people with a derogatory term (bigot)
because you don't like them or don't agree with them (or their
lifestyle)...  isn't that what people did to gay people?  And blacks?  And
jews?  And everyone else you claim to defend from all us "bigots"?

Practice what you preach, Matthew.  Lay off the derogatory terms, lest you
find yourself labeled a "bigot".

Personally, I find the fact that you're calling so many people "bigots"
with no justification far more offensive than the original statement by
Alex that got you so upset in the first place.

I'd rather be called gay than a bigot...  the latter is far more
offensive.

-- Nick


On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 14:34 -0500, Paul wrote:
> > Timothy Penner wrote:
> > 
> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >>From: Nick Seraphin [mailto:asterisk at eaglequest.com] 
> > >>
> > >>5) It is absolutely insane how people overreact and take 
> > >>everything so personally when someone doesn't use 100% 
> > >>political correctness.  God help us if Alex says "Merry 
> > >>Christmas" next month or tells a joke about a midget that 
> > >>walked into a bar, blah blah blah.  You might have a coronary.
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >
> > >Oh Noes!   he said "God help us" on a public mailing list!!!!  call the
> > >thought police because that is challenging my beliefs and is politically
> > >incorrect!  
> > >
> > >Just like using the word "gay" to describe a product, some people take
> > >offense to different things, such as referencing "God" "to help us"....
> > >Strange concept huh, that different people think differently.... wow! 
> > >
> > >Lets keep this list on track!!
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > I'll use my dictionary before I make assumptions or jump to conclusions
> > about somebody's intentions. Looks to me like it could be describing a
> > colorful product. It's also some peoples last name and they don't claim
> > exclusive ownership of the word.
> > 
> > As for using the word "God" - If we ban all religious words and
> > statements on a list we might as well make atheism or agnosticism the
> > official religion of the list. Even the words "Happy Thanksgiving" might
> > offend some who know the origin, tradition and history of the holiday.
> > 
> > I really do wish everybody a happy November 22, whether or not they call
> > it Thanksgiving Day.
> 
> 	You're a smug bigot making jokes about treatment that ruins people's
> lives. Making up nonsense about an imaginary threat to Thanksgiving, as
> code for the equally imaginary "War on Christmas" that privilged people
> like to invoke to justify further oppression of other people. Trying an
> empty pretense that most people gave up as children, pretending that
> using "gay" as an insult doesn't blatantly imply that gay sexuality is
> bad. You're not fooling anyone, except maybe some people insisting on
> deluding themselves the way you are yourself.
> 
> 	When someone inevitably abuses you for who they think you are, when you
> happen to be defenseless, don't whine for the rest of us to protect you.
> We probably will, because we understand that we have to stand together
> or inevitably be hanged separately. But that doesn't mean that you
> individually have earned it.
> 
> 	You have earned a reputation for bigotry that will affect your business
> with anyone with a conscience.
> -- 
> 
> (C) Matthew Rubenstein
> 
> 
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