[asterisk-biz] Manners (was: Re: "Whats New at Digium the Asterisk Company")

[Nick Seraphin]

Oh come on.. get serious!  Or maybe I should say, "loosen up!"

1) Since when is the word "gay" considered a bigoted slur?

2) He didn't say a person was gay, he said a product was gay.

3) Even if you apply it in a "person" context, last I checked, homosexuals
refer to themselves as "gay", so it's obviously not a "bad word".  Unless
you have something against gay people, Matthew?

4) "gay" has multiple meanings, it wasn't invented for the purpose of
identifying homosexuals, either in a positive, negative, or neutral
manner.  Calling it a slur is worse than using the word the way Alex
did... because you're basically saying that ANYONE who uses the word
"gay", including homosexual people themselves, are using a slur.  

5) It is absolutely insane how people overreact and take everything so
personally when someone doesn't use 100% political correctness.  God help
us if Alex says "Merry Christmas" next month or tells a joke about a
midget that walked into a bar, blah blah blah.  You might have a coronary.

Now if he had called someone a "fag", then you would have ground to stand
on -- that could be considered a slur by some people these days.
(Cigarette references not withstanding)

Relax and don't be so uptight.  It's not like he insulted your dead
mother's honor or something.  Sheesh. :-)

-- Nick



On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:

> 	There's a difference between slang and a bigoted slur. If you don't
> know the difference, you should learn it now. I don't need to be a saint
> to point out basic manners of speaking in public. If you think so little
> of this -biz community, please just stay out of it.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 16:06 -0500, Alex Pilosov wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Nov 2007, Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> > 
> > > 	Not only is that comment useless in pure business terms, but using
> > > the word "gay" like that poisons business relationships, and demeans the
> > > entire community.
> > Blah blah blah. Look at the halo above Matthew's head.
> > 
> > Sometimes slang is the only thing that adequately captures the inherent 
> > stupidity. 
> > 
> > Anyway, this is ridiculous. Business relationships? Entire "Community"? On 
> > asterisk-biz? You must be joking. -biz has become a soapbox for Rehan 
> > AhmedWallahBismillah etc and a kindergarden of tin-can-and-asterisk 
> > providers.
> > 
> > -alex
> > 
> -- 
> 
> (C) Matthew Rubenstein
> 
> 
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