[asterisk-biz] Recomendation for DC in NYC for VOIP

[Mike Hammett]

Well, that's just it, it doesn't just take the same routes and MPLS has
nothing to do with it.  What I gather, is that instead of BGP deciding the
packet path based purely on AS hop count, it tests the destinations for
latency, packet loss, jitter, etc. and then selects the best provider for
that given destination.  When provider X has a congested peering point (or
an administrative peering dispute) you don't have to tweak your routers to
avoid it, you just get the clean, filtered route table (if a BGP customer).
While more than provider X, it is cheaper\easier than if you were to get
provider A, B, C, D, E, F, G, etc. and manually tweak it.  While most
services don't really care about those metrics, they are critical for VoIP,
gaming, etc. 

They are also a great value for low commit users.
 
 
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
 
 



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Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Recomendation for DC in NYC for VOIP

It's marketing mumbo-jumbo. Still goes through the same internet 
pathways, even if they're showing fewer hops because of MPLS or some 
such. It still takes the same routes to get where it's going, so it's 
still going to have the same speed.



Mike Hammett wrote:
> *sigh*  I guess some people never get over the fact that others work hard
> and try to incorporate the real world when working on a COLLEGE project.
I
> don't know how many times I have corrected you people, it was college, not
> high school.  Yes, it has been completed as I received my bachelors degree
> with a 3.x GPA oh, 4 years ago!
>
> So you have no real, technical reason why it doesn't work.  It's just
> different than the norm, so it's bad, eh?
>  
>  
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>  
>  
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of
> alex at pilosoft.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 10:38 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] Recomendation for DC in NYC for VOIP
>
> On Tue, 29 May 2007, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>   
>>>> I responded offlist first, but I thought the world should know about
>>>> these guys.  They have an InterNAP like service, but is transparent if
>>>> you're running BGP and has a better pricing schedule.
>>>>
>>>>         
>
>   
>>> I encourage my competitors to follow Mike's advice.
>>>
>>>       
>
>   
>> Why's that?
>> (looking for a technical reason, not trying to start an argument)
>>     
>
> a) Why do I want my competitors to follow your advice? I dunno, I just do.

> Hey, did you ever get that high school bandwidth project completed?
>
> b) Why I don't recommend Arbinet or any of the "magic juice that makes teh
> interwebs faster" (various providers over time have made this claim,
> gamerail is the current joke) - because it doesn't work. Until I see
> actual numbers how, *on average*, it improves performance, I'll keep
> calling BS.
>
> -alex
>
>
>
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