[asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ?

Tue Dec 18 14:18:17 CST 2007

No but the application can be hosted and then the call delivered to a
predetermined iax extension (or even pstn number via the asterisk server
dialing out), or the user being presented with a dtmf keypad to dial a
number)

 
Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
dean at cognation.net 
+1-212-203-4357
+61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).


> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Zoa
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 2:42 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ?
> 
> 
> I don't think a java applet can be hosted code, as it will get
> downloaded before execution.
> 
> Zoa
> 
> Steve Totaro wrote:
> > "Should" or "has to" be is the question here.  If developed for an
> > in-house or even a hosted app, there is no mandate that the code be
> > given back to anybody.  I am not into telling people what they
should
> > and shouldn't do, I offer advice based on my very limited knowledge
only.
> >
> > The decision to share is up to the person holding the code and the
> > contract that I signed and am therefore bound to.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Steve Totaro
> >
> > Jim Capp wrote:
> >
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >>     I'm confused.  Isn't the code that was developed related to the
JIAX
> >> already GPL and therefore should be returned to the community
anyway?
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Steve Totaro wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Dean,
> >>>
> >>> I wish it were mine to give back.
> >>>
> >>> I worked with/for a group.  It is not my IP since it was not my
code and
> >>> even the stuff I did myself (not very useful anyways) was on
contracted
> >>> time.  The contract was very specific about who owned the IP to
any code
> >>> developed.  Technically, by contract I should not have any code in
my
> >>> possession at this point.
> >>>
> >>> The point is, the JIAX code could and has been easily modified to
create
> >>> a free Java web based IAX softphone if someone just did it.  To
me, that
> >>> indicates lack of demand (in the opensource area anyways).
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Steve Totaro
> >>>
> >>> Dean Collins wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Steve,
> >>>> I'm confused about why you decided not to use your development or
offer
> >>>> it back to the community?
> >>>>
> >>>> If you've got it and don't want to use it I'm sure there are some
people
> >>>> on the list that would like to see what you've done and implement
it on
> >>>> a no-support basis.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Dean Collins
> >>>> Cognation Pty Ltd
> >>>> dean at cognation.net
> >>>> +1-212-203-4357
> >>>> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-
> >>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 10:49 AM
> >>>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dean,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think you may be right on the money with JIAX and the real
demand
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> for a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> web based phone.  I worked with a group that "fixed" the freely
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> available
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> JIAX code (by  Mikael Magnusson http://www.hem.za.org/jiaxclient
) but
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> had
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> no interest in giving the code back to wild, nor selling it.  It
did
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> take a few good Java guys very long to get it working the same
as
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Mexuar's.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I was able to compile a workign jar from source myself with a
few
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> changes
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> and I am not a Dev guy, let alone a Java guy at all (but it took
me
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> better part of week).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think that the demand is not really there (yet).  Most real
world
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> people
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> would rather pick up a real phone and dial a toll free number
than don
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> headset with mic and make a call via browser.  I think it has
some wow
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> power
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> to "our kind", but I think the average Joe would not use this
until
> >>>>> convergence is more complete to avoid putting on headphones
(like a
> >>>>> bluetooth link from PC to a hardphone or cell).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It is similar to many companies that I consult for.  The people
in the
> >>>>> company want to know the bare essentials to use the phones.
Sometimes
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> higher ups are interested in advanced functionality but more
often
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> than not,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> they just want something to replace (insert phone system here)
in
> >>>>> functionality with a few remote phones or remote offices.
During the
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> sales
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> cycle however, they are wowed by the possibilities which
certainly
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> helps and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> stands out from the crowd since there are no material nor
licensing
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> costs,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> just time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Steve Totaro
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>> From: "Dean Collins" <Dean at cognation.net>
> >>>>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> >>>>> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:42 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> My suggestion was a $25 one off license per simultaneous call.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Eg you run a small asterisk server in your office where people
may
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> use
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> it from time to time then it's a one off $25 fee.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you run a website with a community of users who get together
to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> chat
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> with each other and want to restrict it to 10 people at once
then
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> your
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> fee would be $250
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And lets face it if you cant/wont pay $25 then you aren't
really
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> serious
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> at any price.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The question in the founders mind always was....how many people
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> actually
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> want to buy this product (at any fee) and how many would use it
if
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> it
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> was free but really don't want it bad enough to fire up a
paypal
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> account
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> or similar.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At the end of the day Tim spent a long time developing the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> application
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> (and at only 125k in size it's a work of art), office space,
rent,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> food
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> and telephony, sales people/tech support salaries all cost
money.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> Mexuar
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> needs a return on their investment to cover their costs and a
profit
> >>>>>> return.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At the end of the day they chose to go with the high end
unlimited
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> use
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> for a single reasonable fee of $US2,000 which means any service
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> provider
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> or large company could implement it quite easily and they
offered an
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> ASP
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> service for one off licenses with a monthly fee.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What confuses me about this whole space is JIAX.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If there is an existing free application available, albeit free
and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> not
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> perfect, why haven't more people chosen to spend time fixing
this or
> >>>>>> offered bounties for it's improvement.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> At the end of the day maybe there just aren't as many people
looking
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> use this functionality as 'perceived' and my proposal is wrong.
As
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> it's
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> not my investment I think the founders of Mexuar made the right
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> choice.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Will be interesting to see if a lot of people chime in on this
> >>>>>> discussion and I'm shown to be right and there is a market for
$25
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> per
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> simultaneous call licenses.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dean Collins
> >>>>>> Cognation Pty Ltd
> >>>>>> dean at cognation.net
> >>>>>> +1-212-203-4357
> >>>>>> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-
> >>>>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Rubenstein
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 7:33 AM
> >>>>>>> To: Mike Clark
> >>>>>>> Cc: Asterisk -Biz
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> $5 per end user is way too much for little Web apps like
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> chatrooms or
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> sales/cust-svc chats, or anything where a given random user
from
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> public on the Web isn't going to return at least $10 a year in
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> profit
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> from which that license can be paid. Even $5 per running
instance
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> too
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> high. The problem isn't so much the price, but just a
per-instance
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> fee
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> as a limit to scale.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The solution is a license fee on a middleware server with
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> traffic
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> capacities, and a free client. But if the middleware does't
offer
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> value
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> of its own (beyond being the "key" for the clients to work),
then
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> it's
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> going to be a nuisance. In any case, the client should be
free.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> Which
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> one impediment to widespread development, which is a reason it
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> isn't
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> here yet. But since there is some development, with those
bizmodel
> >>>>>>> constraints, I'd think there'd be several options already for
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> "webpage
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> voice" integrated with the PSTN. These same business
constraints
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> don't
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> seem to have eliminated any number of free clients floating
around
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> seeing lots of use. Which are then harnessed to support
business
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> models
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> relating to the business, not to the software used by the
business.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 07:20 -0500, Mike Clark wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> They key is not creating a barrier to entry. It would be
ideal if
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> I
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> could license a "Mexuar-like" client in small lots of 5 or 10
at
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> price
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> of around $10 per license. You might even give away a "free"
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> developer
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> pack of 2 licenses so folks can easily get started. This all
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>> enables
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> little gut to get in the game, and then maybe hit a homerun
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> resulting in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> thousands of licenses.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dean Collins wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> But Mike the question remains how much is it worth to you to
be
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> able to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> do this?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Dean Collins
> >>>>>>>>> Cognation Pty Ltd
> >>>>>>>>> dean at cognation.net
> >>>>>>>>> +1-212-203-4357
> >>>>>>>>> +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mike Clark
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 17 December 2007 5:22 PM
> >>>>>>>>>> To: email at mattruby.com; Commercial and Business-Oriented
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> Asterisk
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Discussion
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Dean, how would you describe Mexuar, with its embeddable
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> but
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> proprietary IAX applet, in that context?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ...snipped a bunch..
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not Dean, but I'll comment here.I evaluated Mexuar and
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> really
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> liked
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> it, but they had no good mechanism for a small developer to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> get
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> started.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> They wanted a substantial up front licensing fee to get
going.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> OTOH,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> you turned out to be successful, it was a good deal because
it
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> was a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> one
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> time fee.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ribbit has a totally different model as they are a full
blown
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ITSP and
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> have provided a Flex/Actionscript API to their Flash phone
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> component
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> no charge to developers. I have an app ready to roll as
soon
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> as
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> they
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> completely live.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I would love to see a similar type API to a Flash SIP or
IAX2
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> component
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> where I could access my own Asterisk or Freeswitch server.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mike Clark
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> (C) Matthew Rubenstein
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
> >
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