[asterisk-biz] What do you pay for PRI in the US?

Steve Totaro stotaro at asteriskhelpdesk.com
Tue Apr 17 08:01:17 MST 2007


I am a firm believer that in the not too distant future, Peer 2 Peer SIP 
will put all of these mechanisms out of business.  Make money while you 
can boys.  Verizon will shut it all down soon enough and P2P will rein 
in the new paradigm shift.

http://www.p2psip.org/

Thanks,
Steve

Mike Hammett wrote:
> I'm not talking about any specific cases here.
>
> This is one advantage of VoIP vs. TDM.  If you run out of TDM channels, how
> many months does it take to get new ones?  If you have VoIP connections, it
> could be as quick as that same day.
>
> This would allow someone to not have a whole DS3 sitting empty, afraid of
> busy signals.  Instead they could keep a more slim ratio and have a warning
> go off when you reach a certain threshold and order another few channels.
>
> I am a firm believer that TDM has no place in the coming VoIP world (sans
> the carrier's interconnections with the PSTN).
>
>
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:44 AM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] What do you pay for PRI in the US?
>
> asterisk_help at iwishi.nu wrote:
>   
>>> True enough.  There is a trunk for each subscriber but the 
>>> ingress/egress certainly could not handle all of those trunks 
>>> simultaneously.  I would still want to know a ratio going into it, 
>>> otherwise, I would just take my chances with a real PRI for slightly 
>>> more money.
>>>       
>> And a "real PRI" has exactly the same issue. The only thing a real PRI 
>> has over the nontraditional PRI is that you ASSUME the company is 
>> larger and has experenced engineers to monitor the network.
>>
>> I remember in Minnesota when MCI hit the local market. The sales guys 
>> sold to ISP's left and right. Their service fell flat on it's ass each 
>> time an ISP was connected. Next move, they disconnected exisiting ISP 
>> accounts and made the front page of the news paper and headline on the 
>> TV news. This was back in about early 1997.
>>
>> Ratio information only assumes you think you're a better engineer than 
>> they are. Again as was pointed out, some customers might be grandma 
>> and the other a telemarketer.
>>     
>
> I am not arguing that fact but if a reseller is just selling trunks from 
> a "real" telco, then isn't the issue of contention compounded?  There is 
> a ratio of a ratio, correct?
>
> Believe me, I know about grandmas and telemarketers.  I ran a call 
> center with a TDM T3 from Global Crossing with a $30,000/mo phone bill. 
>
> The fact of the matter is that Molten is marketing this to business 
> users on a large scale (Brian said so himself), not grandmas.  If you 
> put it in the proper context, maybe you will see my point of view.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve
>
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