[asterisk-biz] Fraud Alert: Tradevoice.net

[Kannaiyan Natesan]

I have a piece of words. If you don't know how to do safe business,
please shut down that down off and work for companies where you get
safe salary and sleep too. Being don't know how to carry on businesses
and blaming the fraudesters.

Kannaiyan

On 9/5/06, Zac Amsler <list-asterisk at netiqsys.net> wrote:
> Jean-Michel Hiver,
>
> Sorry if I offended you.
> I guess my business values are different than some. Different teachers I
> guess.
>
> I actually do wish you the best.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Zac Amsler, Network Operations
> NetIQ Systems, LLC www.netiqsys.net <http://www.netiqsys.net>
> US48 $.01/min, Canada OnNet $.008, Competitive A-Z Rates.
>
>
>
> Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:
> > Zac Amsler a écrit :
> >
> >> One last thought. (Sorry for the multiple posts.. I just woke up. And
> >> reading posts in the wrong direction.)
> >>
> >> I would like to address an aspect of this post.
> >>
> >> This aspect being privacy.
> >>
> >> You have publicly flamed someone who shared personal information with
> >> your company.
> >> I don't know what your privacy policies are, but they should include
> >> a clause that protects the customer.
> >
> > I thought of that. But since the company doesn't legally exist and the
> > name is probably a fake, it doesn't harm very much. The only thing of
> > "value" in there is the IP address of the softswitch, and I wanted to
> > warn others about it.
> >
> > Besides, this person isn't "a customer". It's not like he's just not
> > paid the invoices. He's disappeared completely, took down website,
> > email, phone, etc. He or she has forged bank wire transfers, used fake
> > identities, etc. What does "privacy" mean when the whole thing is a
> > fake to start with?
> >
> >
> >> IMO it is not your job to tell the world how bad someone is. You
> >> should be dealing with this issue professionally and quietly.
> >> Hire bill collectors. Send out head hunters.
> >>
> >> IMO Asking the list if someone knew how to get a hold of this person
> >> is fine.
> >>
> >> You could have left out the bad debt part of it and saved yourself face.
> >
> > I don't think admitting I've been abused and / or made a mistake is
> > saving face. Hiding your mistakes and / or errors and pretending
> > everything is going perfectly OK is just being cocky at best.
> >
> > And i wouldn't feel any good if somebody else on the list got screwed
> > because I "pretended" that nothing ever happened. So beware...
> >
> >
> >> I am sorry to say this, but I hope that all your customers leave you
> >> because you have shown that you are unable to respect their privacy.
> >
> > Oh, thank you so much for wishing me so much harm. That's exactly what
> > I needed.
> >
> > Well, I am not going to wish this kind of stuff happened to you - nor
> > anybody else. But if it did, at least you'd understand why you're
> > talking rubbish.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jean-Michel.
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