[asterisk-biz] Fraud Alert: Tradevoice.net

[Bob Smith]

Actually you did all the homework you needed... except you did it AFTER 
the facts..

Man i call paypal on all transactions over 100$.. i REFUSE traffic and 
REFUSE money from lots of shady countries

africa/nigeria parts , asia(vietnam).. mainly anything NON USA/CAN based 
is troubles..

#2. whatever you do.. you cant get legal settlements with offshore 
companies..
#3 they almost always scam/fraud stolen paypal or bank infos.

had a guy with the balls to call us up and try 4 different cards with 
different names on them etc till i actually told him we would not do 
business without a passport photocopy and VALID USA drivers license..

only thing to do to end the matter is start with the inverse philosophy ..

Start with DENY =ALL.. then work your way to ALLOW=

We live in a techno world of hacker/fraudsters and other crap. we need 
to start living in that world.. we can't keep our doors unlocked like 
our grandparents did.. so why should we leave our business open like that..

my 0.02 cdn cents
Kannaiyan Natesan wrote:
> Is the post paid is not coming with any credit check?.
> Where you failed? and in what way you have trusted?
>
> Kannaiyan
>
> On 9/4/06, Brian Fertig <brian at netdr.biz> wrote:
>> First off dude..  You only have you to blame..  yes thank you for
>> alerting the rest of the world, but if you would have done your homework
>> on this guy you would have seen problems.
>>
>> Now..  Yes.. The web address doesnt work anymore.  The 66 IP belonds to
>> NAC and the 208 belongs to godaddy.  His address can be googled.  Now
>> weather or not he actually
>> lives there is another thing.  The phone number and address are in New
>> Orleans.  Not California.  I have found the address and such.  No big
>> deal.  Now I am assuming by what you
>> said that you sent him more than 1 invoice.  Here's a thought..  If its
>> post paid...  Give him 15 days then cut em off.  Its pretty standard in
>> business.  I mean all in all I know how you
>> feel that I have lost money over fraud..  But you could have avoided
>> most if not all of this..
>>
>>
>> My 2c..
>>
>> Jean-Michel Hiver wrote:
>> > Hi List,
>> >
>> >
>> > I have carried quite a lot of traffic for somebody who calls himself
>> > "chris waltson" from a company called "tradevoice.net". To this date,
>> > none of the (pretty large) invoices I've sent have been paid. The
>> > bloke has even emailed me a scan of a (really badly made) fake
>> > citibank wire bank transfer!
>> >
>> > The IP addresses this man has used to send traffic are: 66.29.78.180
>> > and 208.109.101.230.
>> >
>> > If you have any information on this person / and or company do not
>> > hesitate to get in touch with me. If somebody with these IP address
>> > wants to send you traffic, refuse!
>> >
>> >
>> > A whois on tradevoice.net yields pretty bad results:
>> >
>> >    TRADEVOCE, INC
>> >    Pavel Kotov        (pavel_kotov1970 at yahoo.com)
>> >    838 Camp Street Apartment C
>> >    New Orlean
>> >    California,70130
>> >    US
>> >    Tel. +504.2740154
>> >
>> > Google for "838 Camp Street Apartment C" and you will get hell...
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Jean-Michel.
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