FW: [asterisk-biz] hardware question

Number-6 n6records at free.fr
Tue Oct 31 11:26:47 MST 2006


No problem, I just think that I can handle an asterisk configuration.

Anyway, with that card will I need a SIP provider to manage multiple 
lines through one pots like I explained before ?

Thanks again

--
Ben

Dean Collins a écrit :
> Hi Ben,
> Don't take this the wrong way but it doesn't sound like you have the technical skillset to be able to implement this.
>
> Don't stress though - there are plenty of people around the world (including some in eastern Europe/south America who work very cheaply) who will be able to build this for you.
>
> Can I make a suggestion that you put together a 3 or 4 paragraph of what it is you want to achieve then psot it to the asterisk-biz list and ask people to contact you to quote on building the job for you.
>
> If you don't want to take my advice then that's fine; 
> It's this card http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/te110p.php (an E1 can handle up to 30 channels)
>
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Dean
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Number-6 [mailto:n6records at free.fr]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2006 12:46 PM
>> To: Dean Collins
>> Subject: Re: FW: [asterisk-biz] hardware question
>>
>> So to handle a waiting queue of 15 to 20 people with the possibility of
>> queued people to listen to current conversation over an overtaxed phone
>> number what would be the cheapest solution ?
>>
>> Thanks again
>>
>> --
>> Ben
>>
>> Dean Collins a écrit :
>>     
>>> You can have a mix of pstn and sip trunks.
>>>
>>> In my home I have 1 pstn, 2 iax services and a sip service
>>>
>>> Mind you I only have 3 polycom handsets so if they all rang at once I
>>>       
>> wouldn't be able to deal with them.
>>     
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Number-6 [mailto:n6records at free.fr]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2006 11:10 AM
>>>> To: Dean Collins; asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>>>> Subject: Re: FW: [asterisk-biz] hardware question
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot Dean for that very complete answer !
>>>>
>>>> The thing is I want to be as independent as possible, just having a
>>>>         
>> 1900
>>     
>>>> like with France Telecom and a pbx with an online credit card billing
>>>> service..
>>>>
>>>> I think I need a pbx to manage the waiting queue as people in the queue
>>>> have to hear the person talking with the clairvoyant and for the 30min.
>>>> sessions system. So I think it is cheaper to have it in my home than
>>>> paying an external service.
>>>>
>>>> So I thought I needed a card...
>>>>
>>>> But you say that it would be easier to have a SIP system but that
>>>> implies to have a SIP service provider for the connection with the
>>>>         
>> PSTN.
>>     
>>>> Isn't it cheaper to do everything by myself at home ?
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if I'm not very clear...
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for the time you take to answer me.
>>>>
>>>> Dean Collins a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>> To be honest I couldn't understand what you were missing about the
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> question.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> You don't necessarily need to buy any cards to get phone lines
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> connected, just use a SIP carrier
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Service+Providers+B2B
>>>>> France
>>>>> Acropolis Telecom Providing DID and toll free number in all Europe.
>>>>>           
>> Also
>>     
>>>> good termination prices in all Europe.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Bluesat Asterisk to/from PSTN gateway with low rates, French DID
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> numbers, call termination
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> DirectCentrex Provinding all VOIP services, DID, toll free,
>>>>>           
>> termination
>>     
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> http://www.opencentrex.com Providing DID and toll free number as well
>>>>>           
>> as
>>     
>>>> Fax2Mail, Mail2Fax, IP Centrex and IPBX.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Plug & Tel: Provides Telecom Solutions for
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> operators,distributors,resellers (Termination,Origination,IPBx, Centrex
>>>> IP, Callshops, Call Center, Switchless...and more).
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Proformatique SSLL Invents, develops or adapts free software based
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> solutions like Asterisk
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Super Phone France:Super Technologies France division,provides US
>>>>>           
>> local
>>     
>>>> phone service,broadband calls in France.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> VTELCOM SIP/IAX termination, French DID
>>>>> XIVO XIVO provides VOIP solutions based on Asterisk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or if you have the 1900 number already being delivered to an ISDN line
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> then
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/te110p.php 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Or if you have it delivered to a PSTN line and don't expect a high
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> volume of calls then this
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> http://www.digium.com/en/products/hardware/tdm400p.php
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> am I missing something about your question?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Number-6 [mailto:n6records at free.fr]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2006 9:23 AM
>>>>>> To: Dean Collins
>>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: [asterisk-biz] hardware question
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, your remark is clever, I'll think about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Basicaly the idea was to use an overtaxed france telecom number.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, we'll need to have a credit card billing solution for
>>>>>>             
>> "private
>>     
>>>>>> sessions".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the moment, my main question is which card should I buy ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dean Collins a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Ahh French...the language of the world.....dont think France only.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding billing, how are you billing at the moment? A 1900 service
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> similar?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Yes you would have to bill via credit card or similar, but it would
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>> also
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> open up your potential market to non France telecom 1900 customers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>>>>>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Number-6
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2006 9:11 AM
>>>>>>>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: FW: [asterisk-biz] hardware question
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dean Collins a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>>> You might also want to check out
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> http://www.mexuar.com/products_sdk.shtml or http://www.voip-
>>>>>>>> info.org/wiki/view/Mexuar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> This will enable you to connect people to your asterisk server via
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> web, eg instead of someone dialing to connect to the clairvoyant
>>>>>>>>                 
>> they
>>     
>>>>>>>> could connect from anywhere in the world via a browser to a meetme
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> session
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> (the clairvoyant could also use the same service to connect or just
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> dial
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> in via pstn/sip like normal).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Dean,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the link and infos but it is a french only service so
>>>>>>>>                 
>> the
>>     
>>>>>>>> worldwide availability doesn't seem to be useful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway that is an option that must be thought.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The other problem would be the payment, that would imply a credit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>> card
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>> billing webpage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dean Collins
>>>>>>>>> dean at mexuar.com
>>>>>>>>> +1-212-203-4357 Ph
>>>>>>>>> +1-917-207-3420 Mb
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
>>>>>>>>>> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Number-6
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 31 October 2006 8:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] hardware question
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Terje Elde a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Number-6 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd want to make a phone service where people call a number to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> someone. Other people who want to talk to the same person
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> listen
>>     
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>> conversations while they wait their time. With 30 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>> sessions
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>> per call.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like an adult hotline?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> Lol, not at all it is for a clairvoyance service.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is the cheapest card I could get ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you thinking about connecting a phoneline to an Asterisk
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> box?
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> Yes indeed, a basic computer (ie a P3 800) with a pbx card.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> If possible, I'd rather look into getting the incoming calls
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>> delivered
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>> using SIP.  That way, you don't need any hardware, but just an
>>>>>>>>>>> Asterisk box and an internet connection.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> Ok, so it would be possible that the box handles simultaneously
>>>>>>>>>> something like 15 calls in the way : 1 is speaking to the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> clairvoyant
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>> while 14 are listening ? Each one gets 30 minutes with a queue
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> based
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> who phoned first.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if I can help out with some pointers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>> I've got basic knowledge about telephony (pots, voip...), good
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>> about signal routing but help for the choice of the card would be
>>>>>>>>>> greatly appreciated
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Ben
>>>>>>>>>>
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