[asterisk-biz] out of the box PBX

[Farzal Dojki]

IT was the part about hardware costing about a $1,000. I am sure you realize
the inquiry was for the software but still went about your way.

A lot of other open source software - JBoss, MySQL, SugarCRM - works great
out of the box. They also result in significant savings over their
competition (Websphere, Oracle, Siebel). That's the FOSS business model
which I believe is true in spirit, and the one we see in database, OS, App
Servers, CRM areas. 

The software is free, the support costs. By using JBoss, MySQL and SugarCRM,
we managed a 24x7 call centre based Insurance company with 0 support
personnel. The whole insurance ERP was built using open source components,
and it ran on Linux + mysql + jboss just as fine as it would have on Windows
+ sql server + Web sphere (our development environment).

The point is - open source does not mean broken. It does not mean weak. It
does not mean nightmares. And you all seem to imply that the underlying
Asterisk is broken, weak and unreliable, and spending hundreds of $ per user
is a must to have a reliable system. 

Anyways, I am a poor engineer from a poor country. Linus Torvalds (and Mark
Spencer?) is our hero. It's 5 in the morning. FC4+Asterisk+freepbx+FOP seems
to work for now.

It was good weekend discussion. Let's get back to business.

Farzal



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Kristian
Kielhofner
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 1:52 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] out of the box PBX

Farzal Dojki wrote:
> Dear Kristian, please save your insults for some other forum. I had only
> asked for software license + support (if possible). And my 2nd entry was
an
> open question hoping for honest answer.
> 
> That's to Mr. Mitul Limbani response, I have an idea what's going on in
the
> market from 'business' perspective. It seems the base system is able to
> support that number of users. Many companies just have their business
models
> built around the # users that will use the system.
> 
> But plenty of vendors exist out there whose SMB software will cost below
> $1000, which I guess would be our new price ceiling instead of $500.
> 
> And we will of course continue to play with core asterisk and one day hope
> to go 100% free. We, in fact, are a PBX reseller.
> 
> Thanks everyone,
> 
> Farzal
> 

Farzal,

	I'm sorry if anything that I wrote seemed like an insult.  I can
assure 
you that I didn't intend to insult your, your business, or anyone else.

	Either way, I'm glad that you have learned a little bit about the 
economics and business model of FOSS.  I wish you the best of luck in 
finding the solution you are looking for.

-- 
Kristian Kielhofner
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