[asterisk-biz] New Broadband Phone Service

Thu Nov 2 20:24:42 MST 2006

Sure you can...  bigger, more direct pipes.  ;-)  Well, okay, not exactly the same, but accomplished the same goal.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Al Bochter 
  To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion 
  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] New Broadband Phone Service

  You can't control QOS over the web

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  shadowym wrote: 
What do you mean by QoS?

The ONLY reliable ITSP service is one that is able to offer end to end QoS.
In other words, TDM circuits so your basically back to using the PSTN again.
An internet connection that is geographically near to(therefore few hops)the
PSTN connection is ok for some but it will never replace a traditional phone
connection for many businesses. 

There are zero guarantees if your part of general internet traffic no matter
how close you are.  Some day the backbone ISP providers may all offer end to
end IP QoS options within their networks and from one to another but I don't
see that happening anytime soon.

-----Original Message-----
From: Henry.L.Coleman [mailto:henry.coleman at voip-pbx.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:20 AM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] New Broadband Phone Service

I sorry but I have to disagree. There are many businesses that can use VoIP,
have a good QOS and save tons of money.

Henry L.Coleman CEO
*VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355
Toronto Ontario
Canada

  If both sides are on decent connections (especially same carrier), 
then you should be fine.  I agree that the fewest hops wins, but its 
not complete junk over the public Internet.

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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kerry Garrison
  To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:44 AM
  Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] New Broadband Phone Service

  Why do we need to promote voip adoption? Its not as reliable and 
suffers from call quality issues. The people that are running around 
screaming about promoting VoIP (as in ITSP's) are actually doing more 
harm than good to the market. The only reliable VoIP service is if you 
are getting it directly from your circuit carrier so it never goes out 
onto the open internet. If you want to play in that space as a 
residential user, then be my guest, but in the business market where 
companies have to rely on their phone service to be up and actually be 
able to use their phones, then VoIP is not the right choice today. So 
NO, we should not do anything we can to promote it.

  Kerry Garrison
  Director of Technical Services
  Tech Data Pros - Business IT Solutions
  (949) 502-7819 x200 - kgarrison at techdatapros.com
  http://www.techdatapros.com

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  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 5:42 AM
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    s/broadband phone service/mlm scheme/

  Agreed, but don't you think it is about time we use whatever we 
possibly could to promote voip adoption  :-)

  M

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