[asterisk-biz] termination pricing needed

[C F]

You know what, how about we stop playing this cat and mouse game and
start getting down to business?
I'll email you off list, all I'll offer is a good deal direct with a
top level provider.

On 5/22/06, C F <shmaltz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Not according to the quotes I got.
>
> On 5/22/06, Frank <bureau at inmte.com> wrote:
> > Yep hes talking inbound... outbound is even worst..
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C F
> > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 5:25 PM
> > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] termination pricing needed
> >
> > Am I reading corrctly? does this email from Level3 Account director
> > match the subject line? You want termination, and he's talking Local
> > Inbound.
> >
> >
> > On 5/21/06, Frank <bureau at inmte.com> wrote:
> > > Level3  Account director himself..
> > >
> > > Local Inbound:
> > >
> > > .           3.5+ million minutes per month now or ramped over 3 months
> > > ($25,000 monthly commitment)
> > >
> > > .           This is an inbound only product (calls flow from PSTN to IP)
> > >
> > > .           SIP signaling must be used/(TCP or UDP)
> > >
> > > .           G.711 or G.729A audio CODECs only
> > >
> > > .           Level 3 Customer is running voice over IP application
> > >
> > >  .          The Level 3 customer does not have to be a facilities based
> > > carrier but is required to have access to a Class 5 switch/Feature Server
> > > (IVR, SS, VoIP application - IVR, conference bridge, Media Server with
> > voice
> > > application, IP enabled ACD or PBX)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > > [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of C F
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 2:17 PM
> > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] termination pricing needed
> > >
> > > It appears that some people have never tried that before, L3 will deal
> > > with you even if you  commit only for around 1M minutes at less than
> > > $0.01 per minute to top 20, and so will MCI. I have never dealt with
> > > Qwest so I cannot tell you about them. Last time I checked the
> > > montyly commit with L3 was $10K.
> > >
> > > On 5/21/06, Frank <bureau at inmte.com> wrote:
> > > > Finally some one that thinks.
> > > >
> > > > Of course for 100k I could get l3,qwest and one other in this setup...
> > > >
> > > > That as said would take weeks to accomplish.
> > > >
> > > > Anyhow thanks to all I found my provider.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > > > [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jed Stafford
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:55 PM
> > > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> > > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] termination pricing needed
> > > >
> > > > Except that is not very many minutes for domestic.
> > > > Even if you consider a very high price average of
> > > > $0.01 per minute, that is only $30,000. The currentl
> > > > monthly commit for L3 is $50,000. On top of that you
> > > > would only get L3, vs. going with a true wholesale
> > > > company which would have commits with multiple major
> > > > carriers oftens get you the same or better price than
> > > > you could get in the door with, avoid months of
> > > > interop testing and deposits with various carriers as
> > > > well as a good LCR/failover. The overhead of dealing
> > > > with the politics of the carriers alone is often worth
> > > > going indirect as there are a lot of benefits of using
> > > > a reseller.
> > > >
> > > > -Jed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- C F <shmaltz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Overhead is only a problem because it costs money,
> > > > > if you are going to
> > > > > use ~3M minutes then you *will* be overpaying if you
> > > > > don't go directly
> > > > > to the big guys, which means that the overhead
> > > > > already paid out.
> > > > > BTW, I don't see any overhead in getting VoIP
> > > > > directly from the big
> > > > > guys (like L3).
> > > > > You can still use TDM with Asterisk and manage it
> > > > > remotely, if you
> > > > > think that TDM is too much of an overhead,  then you
> > > > > should try POTS
> > > > > for a few days, I think POTS is much more of an
> > > > > overhead.
> > > > > Perhaps your client should take on a new consultant
> > > > > that could handle
> > > > > the overhead.
> > > > > Again you are either lying here about something, or
> > > > > you are
> > > > > misrepresenting your client.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 5/20/06, Frank <bureau at inmte.com> wrote:
> > > > > > IT is for a client of mine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We do not want to have the overhead of equipment
> > > > > for tdm etc etc
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An Asterisk switch can be managed remotely and
> > > > > therefore a lot easier then
> > > > > > hardware .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We pay weekly or can prepay.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No problems there lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> > > > > > [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On
> > > > > Behalf Of C F
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 3:10 PM
> > > > > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
> > > > > Discussion
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] termination pricing
> > > > > needed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am I the only one finding this hard to believe?
> > > > > > If you are going to use *and* pay for ~3Million
> > > > > minutes per month,
> > > > > > then why do you need this list? I can get you
> > > > > excellent pricing
> > > > > > (~$0.006 to top 20) *and* quality for both TDM and
> > > > > VoIP at this amount
> > > > > > of minuest per month, if you have a problem
> > > > > getting it, then I
> > > > > > understand that either you are lying, or you have
> > > > > a tendency of not
> > > > > > paying bills. I mean why else wont you do it on
> > > > > your own.
> > > > > > If you don't have the resources to do it on your
> > > > > own, hire someone
> > > > > > privatly that will set this up for you, there are
> > > > > plenty of
> > > > > > consultants around here that would be happy to set
> > > > > you up such a
> > > > > > thing, my self included.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 5/19/06, Frank <bureau at inmte.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We need 100,000 minutes DAILY min termination
> > > > > pricing,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We would prefer 6/6,  we have a good deal but
> > > > > open to offers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ALL usa termination
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We could do a test by tomorrow or Monday morning
> > > > > for a few 100's dollars
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > see quality
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Frank
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