[asterisk-biz] voip-rbl cont

[Erick Baum]

VoicePulse claims to have developed a very sophisticated voip fraud
detection system that it uses.  They say their plans are to possibly sell
this to other voip providers in the future.


On 6/8/06, trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
>
> something I just thought about with the voip-rbl.  In order to protect
> as many people as possible from fraud through their networks, and to
> make administration as simple as possible, it should be totally open for
> anyone to view the records.  However this also includes the people you
> are trying to block.
>
> I wanted to state this as it may be of concern to some, however I do not
> believe it will be that big of a problem since email-RBLs operate the
> same way ...  However with that said, a clever fraudster could scan the
> DB for numbers they know they can profit off calling but arent listed
> then make a massive play against them in a very short amount of time.
>
> This would be similar to the email spammers who will register new domain
> names (and let them go unused after no more than 3 days), get zombies,
> do whatever..  infact after one of the largest known zombie networks was
> taken down and the commander of that arrested many many of the 3 day
> spam domains suddenly halted (not all but a large percentage).
>
> people will always try to figure ways through a system, so you cant
> really rely on just one, however with email who just uses a RBL?  who
> uses just a spam filter without looking up stuff from distributed
> databases?  Most people use a combination of things, and perhaps this
> brings a marketing idea to light for someone who wants to write code
> (either free, support for a fee, or total commercial).  Fraud analysis
> software, especially something that would integrate in realtime with
> asterisk (and possibly other platforms).
>
> I happen to know that there are many companies that already do this for
> the pbx world, I happen to have worked with one long ago in a galaxy far
> away (ok it was new jersey but still :)  I know they were always busy,
> which implies that people were buying, so this may be a new product
> offering that someone could use to either get their name out there by
> way of free code or make money or in redhat style both.
>
> just a thought
>
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