[asterisk-biz] Voipjet provider

[trixter aka Bret McDanel]

On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 12:07 -0400, Mike Lynchfield wrote:
> In life you always get what you pay for, except some times.. maybe 2
> times in a lifetime you get lucky.
> 

not always, sometimes the less expensive item is actually better than
the one that costs more.  

> Everyone wants everything free and get all the suppoprt with it. thats
> common knowledge.
> 
And companies like trxtel.com provide both free service and support.  We
even pay you instead of you paying us :)


> As long as hardware and services have a cost there will be need for
> profit. 
> 

agreed its just a matter of who is paying, given that we offer a service
free, provide support with that service (sometimes outside of the scope
of the service we provide) and it doesnt cost the recipient of the call
anything extra you gotta wonder ...  of course we dont provide every
service (yet)  We have plans of providing more services, although all
cant be free :)


> So until we can replicate our xeon and sunfire's with scotty's
> replicator we are offering something for the new users.
> 

replicators are overrated.  How many times did they break?


> Root access to the box will be needed ( you can change the password
> for a temporary one)
> If you don't feel comfortable with this ,we can try to explain how to
> do it.
> 
> This applies to vanilla asterisk.
> 
> Somebody said Service ? 


That isnt bad service, just wonder if that will hold up if you have many
new signups all requesting that at the same time stuff breaks, or is
this a promo service?




> ps : dont forget to help out the community at
> http://blackhole.theclubvoip.com 
> 
> 

here is an idea, why not roll that into an enum style service where a
client can do a enum query, if it exists they can either TTS an err
message (perhaps "err:message here" ??) otherwise the call goes through.
This would be trivial for you guys to create a little check macro using
asterisk's enum, be more or less portable with other services that have
enum already installed (by creating a null route perhaps for types sip
and whatever) be RBL style more or less (not identical but ...) and
easier for people to query in general.  

powerdns for example is a dns server that takes many backends incl
mysql/postgres so you can easily integrate this with whatever front end
web whatever...

You could even have different 'zones' voipspam, fraud, suspicious, etc.
and people could select which enum entries they want based on
subdomains.  Although I dont think asterisk allows you via the dialplan
to limit calls based on SRC IP you could include IPs as well as numbers
and do both inbound as well as outbound filtering.


I am curious though what verification is done on a number to say that
its 'bad' as opposed to someone doesnt like someone else so they submit
all their numbers in the hopes of causing that person grief.  Then there
are people that scream fraud becuase they screwed up and didnt charge
their costs, even on fixed cost numbers (people have claimed that +448xx
excluding 800 (although those are banned many places becuase its a 8*
block) are fraud even though the termination costs for each class of
service in the 8xx range is fixed - they just charged a geographic rate
instead of a non-geo rate).  

So anyway to be clear, what is the verification process for a number to
be blacklisted?

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