[asterisk-biz] Fraud

Mike Lynchfield theclubvoip at gmail.com
Tue Jun 6 09:04:42 MST 2006


no sure on the dns thing, but as far as did score , thats just it. a score.

Example
ProviderID,DID,score[1 to 10],reason[varchar64],flag[cof,sof,bi,etc]

1000, 1231231234, 9,confirmed abuse,sof
would be suspicion of fraud 90% sure for did 1231231234

code : cof = confirmed fraud.
          bi = billing isues.
          etc.

so you could actualy pull results nightly via corn or anythign you like and
scpecify filters.

pull.php?flag=all&minscore=3 etc

you would then get that list to your pbx box and apply it as you wish.

as in output:

providernickname,DID,avgscore,totalcountofcomplaints,etcetc







On 6/6/06, Tomer Horn <thorn at ivrit.org.il> wrote:
>
> I agree with Florian.
>
> I would like to add that technically, it should be implemented either in
> style of RBL using DNS and/or DUNDi - where the DUNDi will be used as a
> blackhole. Just make sure that by design you'll be able to create
> redundancy sites in different locations in case of DDoS or whatever. Be
> prepared for that.  You should allow, as you suggested, to download the
> complete list by using the web/dns-axfr.
>
> I think with that comes the subject of moral responsibility for the list:
> - Under what rules a DID goes into the list? Who is allowed to commit to
> the list?
> - What prevents from those who are running the list to list "safe" DIDs
> and abuse
> the list for whatever purposes.
> - Maybe the entries should have a feature to enter both positive and
> negative
> votes/scores/comments for each listed DID?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Florian Overkamp wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > Mike Lynchfield wrote:
> >> We create an API , or Web portal , that would accept input
> >> (DID,Reason,Flag)
> >> and serve a list.
> >>
> >> This list would be a SOF (Suspicion of fraud) list in either txt,xml
> >> or both
> >> for you to download.
> >
> >> How does it sound ? ..
> >
> > The basic idea makes a lot of sense, although I think there should
> > also be some meta-data like:
> > - what is the nature of the SOF, in text, for customer support purposes
> > - when was the number registered as SOF
> > - optionally, how many complaints were made about the number ?
> > - if there was an identifiable source, of the complaint or notice, who
> > was it ?
> >
> > Our national regulator also publishes a list of numbers that have been
> > seen in auto-diallers. Maybe other countries do the same ?
> >
> >
>
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