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Chuck Crosby
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> 1. Re: Asterisk TS-1 Asterisk/Soekris/iTX (Bill Michaelson)
> 2. Re: Underutilized PRI (Jean-Michel Hiver)
> 3. Recommendation required: People dial in with user ID and
> password to make international calls (Gurvijay Singh Bhatti)
> 4. T30 faxing (Steve Kennedy)
> 5. Open Proposal (Robert Roach)
> 6. Re: T30 faxing (Darren Nickerson)
> 7. RE: Open Proposal (Steve Totaro)
> 8. Re: Recommendation required: People dial in with user ID and
> password to make international calls (JP Carballo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:29:29 -0500
> From: Bill Michaelson <bill at cosi.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk TS-1 Asterisk/Soekris/iTX
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <43D67209.5080503 at cosi.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
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> I think the genesis of this thread is that you *did* comment on the
> TS-1, or as you now describe it, "the 'TS-1.'"
>
> The VoIP Connection wrote:
>
> > I can't comment on the "TS-1" one way or another
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 00:38:59 +0400
> From: Jean-Michel Hiver <jhiver at ykoz.net>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Underutilized PRI
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <43D69063.8090304 at ykoz.net>
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>
> >>I have an underutilized PRI in Fort Wayne, Indiana. I average less
> >>
> >>
> >>1 call in use even at peak times. But yet, I still need to have the
> >>capacity for when calls are made.
> >>
> >>Does any one have any recommendations on what I could do with it to
> >>recoup some of my monthly costs?
> >>
> >>
> Scrap the PRI line and switch to IP, maybe with a few of POTS lines for
> backup?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:43:17 +1100 (EST)
> From: Gurvijay Singh Bhatti <singhbhattig_it at yahoo.com.au>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Recommendation required: People dial in with
> user ID and password to make international calls
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <20060124214318.18755.qmail at web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I would like to know your experience in providing services to people where
> they dial in a number,
> enter user ID and password and then they are allowed to make calls.
>
> Is it successful? Mostly people use calling cards, it is bit different and
> convenient but what is
> your experience?
>
> Regards
>
> Gurvijay
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 23:51:48 +0000
> From: Steve Kennedy <steve-asterisk at gbnet.net>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] T30 faxing
> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> Message-ID: <20060124235148.GC23819 at colonelk.gbnet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> It seems Brooktrout have just released a software fax solution that
> supports T.30, T.38 and SIP.
>
> Steve
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:28:42 +0800
> From: Robert Roach <robert.roach at gmail.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Open Proposal
> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> Message-ID: <43D6C63A.3020800 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>
> This letter is addressed to all the businesses like mine that are
> developing, deploying and supporting Asterisk based PBX systems for the
> small to medium size business market.
>
> I believe that we are starting to see a need for a formal organization
> that is focused exclusively on supporting our business model.
>
> Our customers have specific needs, both from a product and business
> perspective, that present unique challenges to us and differentiates us
> from companies deploying Asterisk for call centers and independent
> consultants.
>
> IMO, it is our common focus and background that not only presents
> challenges, but gives us an opportunity to leverage our common interests
> to build a stronger product.
>
> In addition, I'll suggest that the majority of us are, by virtue of
> working in relative isolation from one another, on the whole duplicating
> a lot of effort in terms of product development, sales and marketing and
> human resources.
>
> In short, there must be a way for us to combine our resources, apply the
> virtues of Open Source Development to our business model and thereby
> realize the common goals of lowering business costs, speeding product
> development, increasing quality and last but not least, providing a
> global support organization to provide a fall back to both our customers
> and ourselves.
>
> A bit of background: Last June I attended Astricon in Madrid and floated
> the idea of an Asterisk Business Consortium - A group of like minded
> companies across the globe, sharing a common business goal and working
> together to share resources. At the time, I met with a decidedly mixed
> response to the idea. Most people were choosing the go-it-alone
> strategy. Speaking to Digium about it, they are focused – rightly so –
> on growing their own business. However, based on what I have read
> recently on this list – notably Michael's recent request for a 24x7 help
> desk - it seems that the time has come to make a more formal proposal to
> the community at large.
>
>
> My proposal is to create an organization comprised of member companies
> to address the following issues:
>
> 1. Business Related
>
> a. Customer Support - Need for 24x7x365 support for Asterisk installations.
>
> b. Continuation 'Insurance'- Provide an umbrella organization to give
> your customers the assurance that they are not necessarily relying on
> you as the single source for future support/upgrade of the system.
>
> c. Boiler plate contracts – In as much is practical – develop 'standard'
> contracts to offer customers.
>
> d. Marketing – Sharing the development of marketing materials e.g. data
> sheets, FAQs, etc
>
>
> 2. Technical
>
> a. Standardization of 3^rd party application integration to the Asterisk
> platform (Jive IM Server, AsterFAX, Sugar CRM integration, etc). We
> would all benefit from having a coordinated effort in this area reducing
> duplication of effort.
>
> b. Internal development of Asterisk related applications – In order to
> fill voids in functionality, we can again make a coordinated effort to
> build the applications we need. IMO, relying on third party proprietary
> applications for critical features introduces an element of risk into
> our product based on the viability of the 3^rd party's business.
> Additionally, you don't have direct control over the development time
> line or features.
>
> c. 'Standardized' extended functionality for dial plans – For example, a
> speed dial implementation or password protected extensions – As this is
> not supported natively in Asterisk – it is implemented in any of a
> variety of ways by each of us. Difficult for a 3rd party to troubleshoot
> and again working in silos duplicating effort.
>
>
> Near Term Tangible Benefits.
>
> I can think of several, but two specific examples spring to mind.
>
> First, our business is based in South East Asia, but some of our
> customers have offices in the US. We would like to have a reliable
> partner to service the remote offices. As each new customer presents
> their own unique scenario, building relationships with other Asterisk
> support companies on the fly on a one-off basis is just too time
> consuming and potentially risky.
>
> Second, our company has developed a GUI for business users that is
> specifically NOT a graphical representation of the Asterisk dial plan,
> but is rather a user centric application giving them desktop SMS
> features, call forwarding customization, extension password protection
> etc in a format which does not require any knowledge of how a dial plan
> is configured. I know that others out there have done the same. If we
> had coordinated our efforts from the outset we would likely have saved
> time, have a more robust and feature full application. It is still early
> in the deployment cycle for Asterisk overall and we can still capture
> some of these benefits.
>
>
> How would this work?
>
> I think most everyone would agree that the above goals are laudable, but
> just how can you get everyone to agree on how it should be implemented
> is the tough part. I have a rough draft of ideas on how to execute this,
> but at this stage, I'd like to get some reactions from all of you to see
> if this is something worth pursuing.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:39:35 -0500
> From: "Darren Nickerson" <darren.nickerson at ifax.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] T30 faxing
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <136201c62147$d0ed3900$090a000a at dazzalap>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> "Steve Kennedy" <steve-asterisk at gbnet.net> wrote:
>
>
> > It seems Brooktrout have just released a software fax solution that
> > supports T.30, T.38 and SIP.
>
> Steve,
>
> Are you talking about the SR140 product? It's been around for awhile but I
> think it's limited to Windows OS at the moment :-( On linux, we _can_ do
> T.38 over SIP but it still requires the TR1034 board. In all cases that I
> have seen so far, this technology allows you to create a T.38 endpoint, but
> not a gateway.
>
> -Darren
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:49:32 -0500
> From: "Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com>
> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] Open Proposal
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID:
> <BE9DDFB4003EB1499F18B605C4A0E54D1DF9 at steves.first-notification.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Roach [mailto:robert.roach at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:29 PM
> > To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> > Subject: [asterisk-biz] Open Proposal
> >
> > This letter is addressed to all the businesses like mine that are
> > developing, deploying and supporting Asterisk based PBX systems for
> the
> > small to medium size business market.
> >
> > I believe that we are starting to see a need for a formal organization
> > that is focused exclusively on supporting our business model.
> >
> > Our customers have specific needs, both from a product and business
> > perspective, that present unique challenges to us and differentiates
> us
> > from companies deploying Asterisk for call centers and independent
> > consultants.
> >
> > IMO, it is our common focus and background that not only presents
> > challenges, but gives us an opportunity to leverage our common
> interests
> > to build a stronger product.
> >
> > In addition, I'll suggest that the majority of us are, by virtue of
> > working in relative isolation from one another, on the whole
> duplicating
> > a lot of effort in terms of product development, sales and marketing
> and
> > human resources.
> >
> > In short, there must be a way for us to combine our resources, apply
> the
> > virtues of Open Source Development to our business model and thereby
> > realize the common goals of lowering business costs, speeding product
> > development, increasing quality and last but not least, providing a
> > global support organization to provide a fall back to both our
> customers
> > and ourselves.
> >
> > A bit of background: Last June I attended Astricon in Madrid and
> floated
> > the idea of an Asterisk Business Consortium - A group of like minded
> > companies across the globe, sharing a common business goal and working
> > together to share resources. At the time, I met with a decidedly mixed
> > response to the idea. Most people were choosing the go-it-alone
> > strategy. Speaking to Digium about it, they are focused - rightly so -
> > on growing their own business. However, based on what I have read
> > recently on this list - notably Michael's recent request for a 24x7
> help
> > desk - it seems that the time has come to make a more formal proposal
> to
> > the community at large.
> >
> >
> > My proposal is to create an organization comprised of member companies
> > to address the following issues:
> >
> > 1. Business Related
> >
> > a. Customer Support - Need for 24x7x365 support for Asterisk
> > installations.
> >
> > b. Continuation 'Insurance'- Provide an umbrella organization to give
> > your customers the assurance that they are not necessarily relying on
> > you as the single source for future support/upgrade of the system.
> >
> > c. Boiler plate contracts - In as much is practical - develop
> 'standard'
> > contracts to offer customers.
> >
> > d. Marketing - Sharing the development of marketing materials e.g.
> data
> > sheets, FAQs, etc
> >
> >
> > 2. Technical
> >
> > a. Standardization of 3^rd party application integration to the
> Asterisk
> > platform (Jive IM Server, AsterFAX, Sugar CRM integration, etc). We
> > would all benefit from having a coordinated effort in this area
> reducing
> > duplication of effort.
> >
> > b. Internal development of Asterisk related applications - In order to
> > fill voids in functionality, we can again make a coordinated effort to
> > build the applications we need. IMO, relying on third party
> proprietary
> > applications for critical features introduces an element of risk into
> > our product based on the viability of the 3^rd party's business.
> > Additionally, you don't have direct control over the development time
> > line or features.
> >
> > c. 'Standardized' extended functionality for dial plans - For example,
> a
> > speed dial implementation or password protected extensions - As this
> is
> > not supported natively in Asterisk - it is implemented in any of a
> > variety of ways by each of us. Difficult for a 3rd party to
> troubleshoot
> > and again working in silos duplicating effort.
> >
> >
> > Near Term Tangible Benefits.
> >
> > I can think of several, but two specific examples spring to mind.
> >
> > First, our business is based in South East Asia, but some of our
> > customers have offices in the US. We would like to have a reliable
> > partner to service the remote offices. As each new customer presents
> > their own unique scenario, building relationships with other Asterisk
> > support companies on the fly on a one-off basis is just too time
> > consuming and potentially risky.
> >
> > Second, our company has developed a GUI for business users that is
> > specifically NOT a graphical representation of the Asterisk dial plan,
> > but is rather a user centric application giving them desktop SMS
> > features, call forwarding customization, extension password protection
> > etc in a format which does not require any knowledge of how a dial
> plan
> > is configured. I know that others out there have done the same. If we
> > had coordinated our efforts from the outset we would likely have saved
> > time, have a more robust and feature full application. It is still
> early
> > in the deployment cycle for Asterisk overall and we can still capture
> > some of these benefits.
> >
> >
> > How would this work?
> >
> > I think most everyone would agree that the above goals are laudable,
> but
> > just how can you get everyone to agree on how it should be implemented
> > is the tough part. I have a rough draft of ideas on how to execute
> this,
> > but at this stage, I'd like to get some reactions from all of you to
> see
> > if this is something worth pursuing.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rob
> >
>
> 24x7 Asterisk Helpdesk phone support will be online shortly at
> www.asteriskhelpdesk.com.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Totaro
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 16:51:01 -0800
> From: JP Carballo <lists at netfone2x.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Recommendation required: People dial in
> with user ID and password to make international calls
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <43D6CB75.1080705 at netfone2x.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Gurvijay Singh Bhatti wrote:
>
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >I would like to know your experience in providing services to people where
> they dial in a number,
> >enter user ID and password and then they are allowed to make calls.
> >
> >
> >
> Uhuh. I offer the same service sans the password.
>
> >Is it successful? Mostly people use calling cards, it is bit different and
> convenient but what is
> >your experience?
> >
> >
> >
> Ask me that in a year. If I'm still around, then your question is
> answered :)
>
> Seriously though,people who use calling cards do so only because they
> see the very low per minute rates being advertised.
> They never read the fine print where all the charges get factored in.
> Who does anyway?
>
> The end result is they complain they get cheated out of their minutes.
>
> --
> JP Carballo
>
> http://www.netfone2x.com
> Bringing the world closer.
>
> It might look like I'm doing nothing, but at the cellular level, I'm really
> quite busy.
>
>
>
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