[asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell the truth orlive up to expectations.

Ron Arts ron.arts at neonova.nl
Wed Feb 1 12:34:45 MST 2006


It seems to me he was not bashing them for being small or bad quality,
but for lying or overestimating themselves.

Ron

Alex Pui wrote:
> Script Head, 
> 
> I am not a “carrier”, but I think the question would be, if you are 
> buying more volume than most of the “carrier” here, why would you deal 
> with them? Just trying to insult them that they are not 
> “quality”provider. I think you should deal with tier 1 carrier by yourself.
> 
>  
> 
> Or do I miss anything?
> 
>  
> 
> Alex
> 
>  
> 
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> *From:* asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com 
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Script Head
> *Sent:* February 1, 2006 10:30 AM
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* [asterisk-biz] Rant: Wannabe "carriers" please tell the truth 
> orlive up to expectations.
> 
> If you're in the business of providing termination services (some at 
> incredibly low prices), please read this.
> 
> I have dealt with many so called carriers over the last couple of 
> months, almost all of them are present on this list. I am always clear 
> about my calling patterns and expected volume.  Everyone wants the 
> minutes and always say "oh we can take all you can send" and always lie 
> about or underestimate your capacity. When I send 50 or more channels, 
> you choke. Some have choked at 20 channels, some even less. You might 
> have enough channels committed form your "upstream provider" but you 
> don't have enough bandwidth to accept the calls and send them to your 
> upstream. I am almost sure that the majority didn't do any scalability 
> testing.
> 
> The points are:
> 
> 1. If you're a reseller of a reseller with a 10+ domestic "carriers" 
> loaded in your LCR, you are not a quality provider.
> 2. If you do have Tier-1 upstreams, you shouldn't have a problem 
> revealing that information. If you have a problem doing that, you're 
> using bottom-of-the-barrel carriers.
> 3. If your entire infrastructure consits on a leased box on Cogent 
> bandwith "burstable to 100 mbit", you're not a qualitity provider. 
> Nobody in their right mind will let you burst from 1 mbit to 100 for 
> $59.95 per month.
> 4. When someone asks you for a commitment of N number of channels, you 
> better damn have them or say straight out you can't do it.
> 
> I think it should be also a normal practice to make iptraf avaiable to a 
> potential customer so he can test the amount of bandwidth (and burst) 
> you have available.
> 
> ScriptHead
> 
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