[asterisk-biz] 800 Provider Recommendation

Wed Aug 30 08:27:24 MST 2006

Bart;

My company is Advanced Telemanagement Group, Inc. We can provide inbound 800
and outbound termination via SIP. We have our own resporg ID's with SMS800
and can move and manage your toll free's for you.

We are reputable and can set up a SIP test for inbound at your convenience.

Thanks,

Bob Maguire
President
ATG, Inc.
480-515-9200

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   1. Re: Asterisk Tools (Andrew Latham)
   2. RE: Asterisk Tools (Trixter Aka Bret McDanel)
   3. Re: Asterisk Tools (Andrew Latham)
   4. 800 Provider recommendation (Bart Fisher)
   5. Re: Asterisk Tools (Andrew Latham)
   6. RE: Asterisk Tools (Trixter Aka Bret McDanel)
   7. Nigeria Rate and Nigerian DID (Kendall)

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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:42:25 -0400
From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
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Matt

As an regular 2600 reader and mad scientist I can tell you some bad
news.  There are abundant methods of altering or affecting your ANI on
a call.  In a perfect world an SS7 link would suffice but other holes
do exist.  Understand the market, not the technology, then you will
see.

Andrew

On 8/29/06, Matt O'Gorman <mogorman at digium.com> wrote:
> it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link.  However
it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it messes with billing
etc.  I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
>
> Mog
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>
> 1. Buy a T1
> 2. Setup
> 3......
>
> I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
> FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on copper
> and fiber connections.
>
> As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
> other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
> unreliable the system currently is.  Will circuit ID lookups attach an
> ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
> installations...
>
>
>
> On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that CallerID
> > spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as purolator and
> > so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the callers
> > location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
> > possible..
> >
> >
> > Sean
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:00:04 -0700
From: Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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Most billing isn't  done via ani on the pstn but the btn or billing
telephone number which can be done separate from ani.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Matt O'Gorman" <mogorman at digium.com>
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
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Sent: 8/29/06 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools

it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link.  However it
is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it messes with billing
etc.  I am sure you would be shut down quickly.

Mog
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools

1. Buy a T1
2. Setup
3......

I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on copper
and fiber connections.

As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
unreliable the system currently is.  Will circuit ID lookups attach an
ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
installations...

On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that CallerID
> spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as purolator and
> so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the callers
> location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
> possible..
>
>
> Sean
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:07:33 -0400
From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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Sergey

There are methods of altering/affecting the billing ID.  None easy and
most require social engineering.

Andrew

On 8/29/06, Sergey Kuznetsov <asterisk_biz at deeptown.org> wrote:
> Luckily it won't help to spoofer because there is a billing number for a
> circuit which is passing thru SS7 link.
> That is what allows you to catch a crook =)
>
> All the Best!
> Sergey.
>
> Matt O'Gorman wrote:
> > it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link.  However
it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it messes with billing
etc.  I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
> >
> > Mog
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
> > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> >
> > 1. Buy a T1
> > 2. Setup
> > 3......
> >
> > I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
> > FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on copper
> > and fiber connections.
> >
> > As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
> > other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
> > unreliable the system currently is.  Will circuit ID lookups attach an
> > ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
> > installations...
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that CallerID
> >> spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as purolator and
> >> so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the callers
> >> location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
> >> possible..
> >>
> >>
> >> Sean
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> >
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:09:31 -0700
From: Bart Fisher <bhfisher at icpage.com>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] 800 Provider recommendation
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I have a twist.

I currently answer almost 60-80 800 numbers from Global Crossing (GBX) 
that arrive on 7  TDM T1's.

I'm looking for some options to 'host' these 800's and have the call be 
presented via SIP.
I like the keep control of these numbers and not 'Port' them somewhere 
if possible.
I'd be willing to relocate these T1's to the 'host' but what I was 
hoping for is to
find a Carrier that could deliver these calls directly using a company 
such as Qwest or GBX,
thus removing the 'middle man'.

And frankly, it's hard to trust many of the 800 voip Providers I find on 
the net.  Can anyone point me to a
company that you'd trust that could accomplish my goals?

Bart

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:12:19 -0400
From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
	<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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	<c39c115d0608291112s99e5248me19df9fc5bfcfa7f at mail.gmail.com>
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Bret

Correct, what I am discussing is systems which alter the BTN, ANI and
CallerID during a call switch which could be done via some social
engineering calls or via automated methods.  Please refer to the many
educational articles in the 2600 magazine.

Andrew

On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> Most billing isn't  done via ani on the pstn but the btn or billing
telephone number which can be done separate from ani.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Matt O'Gorman" <mogorman at digium.com>
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: 8/29/06 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>
> it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link.  However
it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it messes with billing
etc.  I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
>
> Mog
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
<asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>
> 1. Buy a T1
> 2. Setup
> 3......
>
> I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
> FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on copper
> and fiber connections.
>
> As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
> other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
> unreliable the system currently is.  Will circuit ID lookups attach an
> ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
> installations...
>
>
>
> On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that CallerID
> > spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as purolator and
> > so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the callers
> > location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
> > possible..
> >
> >
> > Sean
> > _______________________________________________
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> lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:15:36 -0700
From: Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
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Message-ID: <20060829181530.CA7DBC5A1 at lists.digium.com>
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This already happens to some extent, some carriers are lazy and don't wanna
pull the info but there is a btn which identifies 1 or more anis in a normal
network.  When you have a line you can send any ani on this btn is still
available during call setup and can be logged with the call along with the
carrier that sent the call. This may be a chain log depending on a few
factors, ie the terminating lec may only know the ixc that sent it to them,
the ixc knows the originating lec, and the originating lec knows the
customer

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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:49:16 -0700
From: Kendall <kendall.ananyi at gmail.com>
Subject: [asterisk-biz] Nigeria Rate and Nigerian DID
To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
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Please any one with good rates to Nigeria mobile and Landline should please
email me and I am also looking for Nigeria D.I.D.'s
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