[asterisk-biz] Re: asterisk-biz Digest, Vol 25, Issue 103
perl ninja
perlninja at gmail.com
Tue Aug 29 14:15:58 MST 2006
it would be kinda nice to find out if you guys could help me with a
ANI Spoofing script or so i'm willing to pay ... just name you're
price :p
On 8/29/06, asterisk-biz-request at lists.digium.com
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> 1. Voip plus conference bridge? (Henry J. Cobb)
> 2. USF Recovery Fee (Sas Sunder)
> 3. Re: Asterisk Tools (Andrew Latham)
> 4. RE: USF Recovery Fee (jay kordic)
> 5. Asterisk spanish pre-recorded voice prompts. (Erick Perez)
> 6. RE: Asterisk Tools (Trixter Aka Bret McDanel)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:30:33 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Henry J. Cobb" <hcobb at io.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Voip plus conference bridge?
> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
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> Does anybody know of a Voip provider who includes a conference bridge that
> can work with Vicidial?
>
> We'd like to keep the dialer itself local, because we will only need to
> conferece/transfer a small fraction of the total calls.
>
> -HJC
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:35:04 -0300
> From: "Sas Sunder" <tofindout2006 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] USF Recovery Fee
> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
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> Hi,
>
> We are being charged a USF recovery fee recently. Do all carriers regardless
> ofl ocation have to pay this fee if sending traffic to US providers? Or is
> this charged only by some US providers?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Sas
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:39:22 -0400
> From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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> Bret
>
> The 2600 magazine is a 180 look at some topics, sometimes it can open
> your eyes thus educational. They have some silly work I will grant
> that but by and large some of the work makes me think about systems in
> new ways.
>
> The question to continue on this topic is what the regulators could
> bring to the carriers to control this. What type of real or just buzz
> wordy method could they select when presured by congressional
> oversight(that was funny..).
>
> Keyed or signed CPE devices
> Costly switch replacement or certification
> Auditing
> New technology not ment for communications
>
>
> Andrew
>
> On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> > 2600 is hardly educational but this isn't the place for that. I did qualify that the btn could be altered however not norrmally by the end user. It was unclear to me that you ever meant the btn because I didn't see mention initially to it.
> >
> > It doesn't even take social engineering, many providers let you pick it (but its supposd to be a number that is yours) which lets you pick one that is not in a given state you do traffic to so its all interstate and usually intercarrier compensation is less, thus the cost is less for the call.
> >
> > Some have used an alaska or hawaii number for us48/conus traffic others have used 2 different states and routed traffic so its all interstate. This is really popular from a pedestrian side of things with tollfrees, have '2' call centers (even if virtual) in different states and make sure its all intersstate since, especially since some states origination charge exceeds 3-4 cents.
> >
> > Back to btn spoofing, its often easier to just create phantom traffic which will still have potentially user supplied caller id/ani. Generally it takes the same access, although phantom traffic is a hot button now.
> >
> > Since the btn isn't seen by many people, you gotta ask why it matters, systems often use caller id/ani instead (ie banks).
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
> > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > Sent: 8/29/06 11:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> >
> > Bret
> >
> > Correct, what I am discussing is systems which alter the BTN, ANI and
> > CallerID during a call switch which could be done via some social
> > engineering calls or via automated methods. Please refer to the many
> > educational articles in the 2600 magazine.
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> > > Most billing isn't done via ani on the pstn but the btn or billing telephone number which can be done separate from ani.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Matt O'Gorman" <mogorman at digium.com>
> > > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > > Sent: 8/29/06 10:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> > >
> > > it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link. However it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it messes with billing etc. I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
> > >
> > > Mog
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
> > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> > >
> > > 1. Buy a T1
> > > 2. Setup
> > > 3......
> > >
> > > I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
> > > FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on copper
> > > and fiber connections.
> > >
> > > As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
> > > other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
> > > unreliable the system currently is. Will circuit ID lookups attach an
> > > ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
> > > installations...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that CallerID
> > > > spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as purolator and
> > > > so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the callers
> > > > location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
> > > > possible..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sean
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> If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
> Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
> ---
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:41:03 -0700
> From: "jay kordic" <jay at thehorizongroup.biz>
> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] USF Recovery Fee
> To: "'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <002501c6cbab$71fadd30$55cbbe44 at jk88905>
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>
> It is mandatory that carriers start paying the USF recovery fee (6.5-6.8%)
> no later than 10/1/06.If they are paying that fee,they will be passing it
> along to you.
>
> Jay Kordic
> The Horizon Group
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sas Sunder
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:35 PM
> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] USF Recovery Fee
>
> Hi,
>
> We are being charged a USF recovery fee recently. Do all carriers regardless
>
> ofl ocation have to pay this fee if sending traffic to US providers? Or is
> this charged only by some US providers?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Sas
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> MSN Shopping for great Cottage Living ideas.
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> =081801
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:55:34 -0500
> From: "Erick Perez" <eaperezh at gmail.com>
> Subject: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk spanish pre-recorded voice prompts.
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID:
> <d08ac7230608291355k49bcecbfp6e019c58d0cf498a at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Hi, I need the asterisk pre-recorded english voice prompts in spanish. Latin
> american spanish.
> Hopefully from Mexico, Colombia or Venezuela. Female Voice.
> No Spain, chile or argentina spanish prompts please.
> the reason is the term used for some phone digits and other words.
>
> Is there any company that has them? and what price?
>
> Hola, Agradezco si me pueden proporcionar el precio y compa�ia donde
> adquirir los mensajes pre-grabados de asterisk, en espa�ol latinoamericano.
> Mexico, Colombia o Venezuela.
>
> La razon es que en latinoamerica el simbolo de # es la "tecla numeral" y no
> "almohadilla" como le dicen en espa�a u otros paises de habla hispana.
> Tambien usamos "computador" y no "ordenador".
>
> Obviamente, el latioamericano entendera las diferencias.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Erick Perez
> Panama Sistemas
> Integradores de Telefonia IP y Soluciones Para Centros de Datos
> Panama, Republica de Panama
> Cel Panama. +(507) 6694-4780
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:03:28 -0700
> From: Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com>
> Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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>
> When you start playing games with btns you are also close to playing intercarrier compensation games. Now this may become a moot point if carriers take the lead of mci who marks all tollfree traffic where one endpoint is voip as interstate (read cheaper) for copensation purposes. Until all carriers do that carriers would be more concerned with getting paid what they hink they should, ie preventing shenanigans that confuse the compensation amounts.
>
> To this end, without federal oversight, carriers have used contracts and lawsuits to prevent mass abuse. See the sbc v att case a few years ago where att was shorting sbc $100 million a year and note that sbc won in court.
>
> That is likely the most formidable method of controlling games.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: 8/29/06 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
>
> Bret
>
> The 2600 magazine is a 180 look at some topics, sometimes it can open
> your eyes thus educational. They have some silly work I will grant
> that but by and large some of the work makes me think about systems in
> new ways.
>
> The question to continue on this topic is what the regulators could
> bring to the carriers to control this. What type of real or just buzz
> wordy method could they select when presured by congressional
> oversight(that was funny..).
>
> Keyed or signed CPE devices
> Costly switch replacement or certification
> Auditing
> New technology not ment for communications
>
>
> Andrew
>
> On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> > 2600 is hardly educational but this isn't the place for that. I did qualify that the btn could be altered however not norrmally by the end user. It was unclear to me that you ever meant the btn because I didn't see mention initially to it.
> >
> > It doesn't even take social engineering, many providers let you pick it (but its supposd to be a number that is yours) which lets you pick one that is not in a given state you do traffic to so its all interstate and usually intercarrier compensation is less, thus the cost is less for the call.
> >
> > Some have used an alaska or hawaii number for us48/conus traffic others have used 2 different states and routed traffic so its all interstate. This is really popular from a pedestrian side of things with tollfrees, have '2' call centers (even if virtual) in different states and make sure its all intersstate since, especially since some states origination charge exceeds 3-4 cents.
> >
> > Back to btn spoofing, its often easier to just create phantom traffic which will still have potentially user supplied caller id/ani. Generally it takes the same access, although phantom traffic is a hot button now.
> >
> > Since the btn isn't seen by many people, you gotta ask why it matters, systems often use caller id/ani instead (ie banks).
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Andrew Latham" <lathama at gmail.com>
> > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > Sent: 8/29/06 11:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> >
> > Bret
> >
> > Correct, what I am discussing is systems which alter the BTN, ANI and
> > CallerID during a call switch which could be done via some social
> > engineering calls or via automated methods. Please refer to the many
> > educational articles in the 2600 magazine.
> >
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > On 8/29/06, Trixter Aka Bret McDanel <trixter at 0xdecafbad.com> wrote:
> > > Most billing isn't done via ani on the pstn but the btn or billing telephone number which can be done separate from ani.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: "Matt O'Gorman" <mogorman at digium.com>
> > > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > > Sent: 8/29/06 10:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> > >
> > > it is my understanding to spoof any you would need an ss7 link. However it is also my understanding that no one spoofs ani as it messes with billing etc. I am sure you would be shut down quickly.
> > >
> > > Mog
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Andrew Latham <lathama at gmail.com>
> > > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 12:13:13 PM GMT-0600
> > > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Asterisk Tools
> > >
> > > 1. Buy a T1
> > > 2. Setup
> > > 3......
> > >
> > > I am afraid of why you want to do this, I am also afraid of what the
> > > FCC will do to curb this in the future by altering switching on copper
> > > and fiber connections.
> > >
> > > As a BIZ list discussion, what can the FCC do to curb Caller ID and
> > > other spoofing, many of us in the business know how insecure and
> > > unreliable the system currently is. Will circuit ID lookups attach an
> > > ANI in the future and how long could this tie up new and upgrade
> > > installations...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/29/06, perl ninja <perlninja at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > i was in need of a script for ANI Spoofing as ive read that CallerID
> > > > spoofing is relativly easy but now adays places such as purolator and
> > > > so on Check with ANI rather then with the CallerID to find the callers
> > > > location, thus i was wanting a script that would spoof both, if
> > > > possible..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ---
> > > Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh)
> > > lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
> > > If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
> > > Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
> > > ---
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> > >
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> > lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
> > If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email!
> > Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.
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> lathama at lathama.com - lathama at gmail.com
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