[Asterisk-biz] Strategic Alliance

[Paul]

Race Vanderdecken wrote:

>Hmmm Gentlemen,
>
>	We are presented with a list of things needed to build a good
>system.
>
>	Where did this list come from?
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>
I don't see it as anything that he couldn't have done on his own. It's 
not exactly a detailed specification so there is no way I could quote 
anything other than my rate schedule.

>	Could it be that he has gotten a quote from a Brother Consultant
>and now wants to phish for a better bid?
>  
>
A good consultant doesn't have to do free quotes that involve much of 
his time. I charge by the hour for doing anything that could be put out 
for bids. I always advise customers why this is the right way to do it. 
There are good sources of hardware, origination, termination, etc. 
available but my customer needs somebody involved who won't be getting 
any type of commissions or kickbacks from those vendors. If I write a 
project spec that the rest of you guys bid for, I still get paid for 
doing that. If I spend a few hours helping my client recruit and hire 
one of you for the next year or so, I get paid for those hours. It's not 
unusual for me to make $400 for helping to choose a programmer who will 
make several thousand dollars. I know the right questions to ask the 
candidates. Most of my clients think somebody who took a night course in 
msoffice and wrote a macro is a computer genius.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Gary
>Lawrence
>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:06 PM
>To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
>Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Strategic Alliance
>
>Just to clarify a point:
>
>What I am looking for is one company I can go to for all the technical
>work
>and hardware for complex Asterisk installations. They will present
>themselves to my clients as my company, to me that is a "Strategic
>Alliance".
>
>I am not looking for a banker. I'll pay for a package of support hours
>in
>advance and will pay for all hardware when ordered, either by bank
>transfer,
>credit card, paypal or whatever is required.
>
>Sincerely,
>Gary Lawrence 
>ITcom.Net 
>866.4ITcom1 
>866.448.2661 
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 10:19 PM
>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Strategic Alliance
>
>Paul wrote:
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>>Again, they would deal with him to get income. Anybody with 
>>intelligence would want money up front or outstanding credit report 
>>before proceeding.
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>I should mention that an outstanding credit report is one that means I 
>my bank will immediately loan me at least 50% of whatever you owe me at 
>a good interest rate. It also means that I could easily sell unpaid 
>invoices without discounting them too much.
>
>Some people posting here should just say "I am looking for an engineer 
>that also wants to be a banker"
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