[Asterisk-biz] Re: Asterisk-Biz Digest, Vol 11, Issue 67

[Jack Chen]

I am looking for thailand, s. korea and Taiwan DIDs

Jack Chen

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>   1. PBXfreeware.org Open for business! / JavaScript module for
>      Asterisk Unveiled! (Brian West)
>   2. Re: Asterisk-Biz Digest, Vol 11, Issue 66 (Mark Burcher)
>   3. RE: CC Fraud (John Lange)
>   4. Re: RE: VISA - MC - Fraud (Kenneth Shaw)
>   5. VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax, LiveVOIP, NuFone,
>      VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs (Kenneth Shaw)
>   6. Re: VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax, LiveVOIP,
>      NuFone, VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs (alex at pilosoft.com)
>   7. RE: CC Fraud (Kenneth Shaw)
>   8. RE: CC Fraud (Mike)
>   9. Nationwide DID's available (Jed Stafford)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:23:06 -0500
> From: Brian West <brian.west at mac.com>
> Subject: [Asterisk-biz] PBXfreeware.org Open for business! /
> JavaScript module for Asterisk Unveiled!
> To: Asterisk Developers Mailing List <asterisk-dev at lists.digium.com>
> Cc: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com, Commercial and Business-Oriented
> Asterisk Discussion <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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> June 20th, 2005
>
> PBXfreeware.org Open for business!
>
> Anthony Minessale II, CTO and implementer of Asterlink, has announced
> the grand opening of PBXfreeware.org, a new site designed to supply
> the open source PBX community with access to contributed open source
> applications. To kick start the release, Anthony has uploaded a few
> of his own popular open source modules for Asterisk namely res_perl,
> res_sqlite and app_valetparking as well as a brand new module just
> released today. "The site is not complete as far as my final vision
> is concerned but we decided it was important to get it up and running
> so we can set the code distribution process in motion.", Minessale
> remarked. Anthony is also hosting the upcoming ClueCon Open Source
> PBX Conference (http://www.cluecon.com). If you are unfamiliar with
> his work a list of his more popular Asterisk contributions can be
> found at http://www.cluecon.com/anthm.html
>
>
> June 20th, 2005
>
> JavaScript module for Asterisk Unveiled!
>
> Anthony Minessale II, CTO and implementer of Asterlink and producer
> of the upcoming ClueCon Open Source PBX Conference (http://
> www.cluecon.com) has announced the immediate availability of res_js,
> a JavaScript module for the Asterisk Open Source PBX. The module
> embeds a live JavaScript interpreter in the Asterisk server and makes
> it possible to execute .js files as IVR scripts the module comes with
> a large example script that showcases all of the Asterisk-specific
> usage. One of the most robust features allows you to white or black
> list application names, variable names and function calls in a
> special security mode that makes it possible to extend permission to
> the end user to manage his or her own IVR scripting and prevent abuse.
>
>
> Brian West
> Asterlink.com
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> ---
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 19:50:33 +0100
> From: Mark Burcher <mark at ttnc.co.uk>
> Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Re: Asterisk-Biz Digest, Vol 11, Issue 66
> To: <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
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> Hello there,
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:56:24 -0500
> From: John Lange <john.lange at open-it.ca>
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <1119293784.9072.73.camel at ws50.darkcore.net>
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> My 2c...
>
> Confirm that the geographic location of the IP address matches the area
> code of the phone number and matches the address. Even though this isn't
> 100% reliable it catches a significant amount of them.
>
> For example, when the IP is Malaysia and the address is New York... You
> have a problem.
>
> -- 
> John Lange
> President OpenIT ltd. www.Open-IT.ca (204) 885 0872
> VoIP, Web services, Linux Consulting, Server Co-Location
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:13:34 -0700
> From: Kenneth Shaw <ken at expitrans.com>
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] RE: VISA - MC - Fraud
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <1119294815.9036.13.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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> This is what Visa International is. Not Visa USA, which is a separate
> entity. Look it up. Realize that the international arms of credit card
> companies are actually separate corporations/organizations and are not
> owned by their US counterparts. For the most part, what you're
> suggesting is already in place.
>
> Realistically, the problem is in international and maritime law, and
> there is no governing body. The WTO is trying to change this but the
> actual benefit of the WTO or globalization is up for debate.
>
>
> On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 15:13 +0200, Danny Froberg wrote:
>> How about a members only system?
>>
>> A company has a problem with a person / company / card, report it to the
>> system, company #2 gets a signup that matches an entry in the database
>> and callback returns a alert flag so the second company can do manual
>> authorization/activation...
>>
>> That way the data would be protected, it's not publicly available lists,
>> but you would need the info to match it...
>>
>> Am I making any sense? ;)
>>
>> /Danny
>>
>> On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 20:39 +0900, Hermann Wecke wrote:
>> > Steve Kennedy wrote:
>> > > Would be illegal in the UK (Data Protection Act) if you identify
>> > > indivuals from it I believe.
>> >
>> > Some countries may consider illegal to (freely) publish individual data
>> > if you are trying to collect money from him (or the company). You also
>> > need to think that the data is fake - someone is impersonating another
>> > person. Quite usual in the U.S. also.
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> -- 
> Kenneth Shaw
> Director of Technology
> ExpiTrans, Inc.
> 2428 Newport Blvd #8
> Costa Mesa, CA 92627
> tel: 949 278 7288
> fax: 866 494 5043
> ken at expitrans.com
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:56:04 -0700
> From: Kenneth Shaw <ken at expitrans.com>
> Subject: [Asterisk-biz] VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax,
> LiveVOIP, NuFone, VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs
> To: asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com
> Message-ID: <1119297364.9036.45.camel at localhost.localdomain>
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> For all Inter-exchange carriers using Asterisk,
>
> Someone posted recently on the list about doing something to combat
> credit card fraud that the IXPs are encountering right now. I have a
> suggestion -- unity.
>
> You would greatly benefit not only yourselves, but the community at
> large by building what we really need: a decentralized, uniform,
> peer-to-peer, secure voice relay system.
>
> All of you need the same things right now: secure, fraud resistant
> payment systems, an easy to use configuration interface, least cost
> routing, and the acquisition of cheaper, route ratings, and better
> termination/origination lines in foreign countries. In essence, you need
> to pool your resources and become what you are destined to be: a minute
> exchange.
>
> Your competition is Skype, Vonage, VoicePulse, CallVantage, CallWing,
> etc. -- not each other. I really want to see Asterisk grow as a
> communications platform, and that will not happen if the small
> commercial enterprises that support it die because they cannot compete
> on the same scale that the big dogs do.
>
> Jeremy, David, Mike, Mark, and all the others, band together. All of you
> currently resell the same companies, and use the same software:
> Asterisk. I assure you that Vonage will be bought up by one of the
> failed VoIP arms of the AT&Ts, Verizons and Cingulars of the world, but
> only after Vonage buys out VoicePulse. And if you think the industry is
> too competitive now, just wait until Netscape, er, I mean Google,
> launches their Communicator product in early 2007, and Microsoft and
> Yahoo start offering similar services.
>
> Realize that Vonage, Mr. Pulver's gig, started out as a concept for a
> telecom minute auction. A minute exchange! But back then, the technology
> wasn't available (or was too expensive) to pull it off, and so was a
> failed business concept.
>
> Become the NYSE of telecom, and make it open so that any company or
> individual can directly buy or sell minutes on your network. That's what
> people, consumers and businesses, really want.
>
> -- 
> Kenneth Shaw
> Director of Technology
> ExpiTrans, Inc.
> 2428 Newport Blvd #8
> Costa Mesa, CA 92627
> tel: 949 278 7288
> fax: 866 494 5043
> ken at expitrans.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:04:45 -0400 (EDT)
> From: alex at pilosoft.com
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] VoIP Future and Asterisk -- For Teliax,
> LiveVOIP, NuFone, VoipJet, BroadVoice and all other IXPs
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID:
> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0506201601260.11177-100000 at bawx.pilosoft.com>
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> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Kenneth Shaw wrote:
>
>> Your competition is Skype, Vonage, VoicePulse, CallVantage, CallWing,
>> etc. -- not each other. I really want to see Asterisk grow as a
>> communications platform, and that will not happen if the small
>> commercial enterprises that support it die because they cannot compete
>> on the same scale that the big dogs do.
> No, not really. They aren't my competitors. They may be competitors of my
> customers. But that's their problem, not mine.
>
> My competitors (and strangely enough, vendors) are traditional carriers,
> like XO, Broadwing, Qwest, etc.
>
>> Jeremy, David, Mike, Mark, and all the others, band together. All of you
>> currently resell the same companies, and use the same software:
>> Asterisk. I assure you that Vonage will be bought up by one of the
>> failed VoIP arms of the AT&Ts, Verizons and Cingulars of the world, but
>> only after Vonage buys out VoicePulse. And if you think the industry is
>> too competitive now, just wait until Netscape, er, I mean Google,
>> launches their Communicator product in early 2007, and Microsoft and
>> Yahoo start offering similar services.
> Yes, time to face the music, we are VARs for big boys.
>
> I think you are somewhat confused if you think that residential VoIP is
> competition to what people here are doing. There's no benefit of using
> asterisk if all you are doing is reselling minutes. It is far more
> interesting when you resell advanced services, not simply termination and
> origination.
>
>> Realize that Vonage, Mr. Pulver's gig, started out as a concept for a
>> telecom minute auction. A minute exchange! But back then, the technology
>> wasn't available (or was too expensive) to pull it off, and so was a
>> failed business concept.
>>
>> Become the NYSE of telecom, and make it open so that any company or
>> individual can directly buy or sell minutes on your network. That's what
>> people, consumers and businesses, really want.
> Welcome to arbinet and 1999.
>
> -alex
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:31:01 -0700
> From: Kenneth Shaw <ken at expitrans.com>
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] CC Fraud
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <1119299461.9036.47.camel at localhost.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Again, already being done. 3D Secure. Amazing, isn't it?
>
>
> On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 13:56 -0500, John Lange wrote:
>> My 2c...
>>
>> Confirm that the geographic location of the IP address matches the area
>> code of the phone number and matches the address. Even though this isn't
>> 100% reliable it catches a significant amount of them.
>>
>> For example, when the IP is Malaysia and the address is New York... You
>> have a problem.
>>
>
> -- 
> Kenneth Shaw
> Director of Technology
> ExpiTrans, Inc.
> 2428 Newport Blvd #8
> Costa Mesa, CA 92627
> tel: 949 278 7288
> fax: 866 494 5043
> ken at expitrans.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 23:06:37 -0000 (UTC)
> From: "Mike" <asterisk.forum at teliax.com>
> Subject: [Asterisk-biz] RE: CC Fraud
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <4010.69.159.140.11.1119308797.squirrel at www.teliax.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
> YEP we do more complicated things then that and we still get 1-2 every
> other day that slips by..
>
>
> How hard for them to sync ip with DB post they make ... not really hard..
>
> how hard again to tie with a random number in right NPA + area code ..very
> easy..
>
>
> they got theyr stuff tought of..
>
> But then again .. i drink coffee, lots of it, speed is an issue.
> You can't wait since its an abuse and they will abuse it fast.
>
> Monitor , Monitor and Re Monitor all accounts
> so the more they try.. the more we shrink the hole and its already the
> size of a pinhead so they must be searching for other means by now..
>
>
> Also dont discuss HOW you stop them here... if they intelligent enough to
> make autodialers to make theyre 3rd party cash somehow they surely MUST
> now about digum , asterisk and this list.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> Again, already being done. 3D Secure. Amazing, isn't it?
>
>
> On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 13:56 -0500, John Lange wrote:
>> My 2c...
>>
>> Confirm that the geographic location of the IP address matches the
>> area code of the phone number and matches the address. Even though
>> this isn't 100% reliable it catches a significant amount of them.
>>
>> For example, when the IP is Malaysia and the address is New York...
>> You have a problem.
>>
>
> --
> Kenneth Shaw
> Director of Technology
> ExpiTrans, Inc.
> 2428 Newport Blvd #8
> Costa Mesa, CA 92627
> tel: 949 278 7288
> fax: 866 494 5043
> ken at expitrans.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:13:31 -0700
> From: Jed Stafford <jeds at bluecorporate.com>
> Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Nationwide DID's available
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Message-ID: <C3332883-DB2D-43E6-8D34-7B054AD8B8AD at bluecorporate.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> We are now selling DID's through our carriers nationwide. You can
> search our available rate centers at http://www.sellvoip.net/
> DIDForm.php . We have hundreds of numbers in stock currently, you
> cannot search our available list online as of yet. If you have a
> specific requirement please email off-list and we can tell you what
> we have and can get. Price per DID is $1.00 with a $1.00 setup fee,
> inbound usage is at 0.011 per minute. We are only accepting orders
> for those looking to order 10 or more DID's.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> -Jed
> http://www.sellvoip.net
>
>
>
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