[Asterisk-biz] Double standards with netfone.ca.

Storm D. J. Petersen stormp at telus.net
Mon Jun 6 18:07:45 MST 2005


Not that I see. http://www.netfone.ca has no mention of PBX or Asterisk in
their home plan or terms of service.

I disagree about what hardware/software you use.  That's not their concern
unless it's a support issue.  If they want to limit minutes or concurrent
calls out they can do so at their end.  Besides, it's a futile thing to try
to attempt to do anyways.  Back to my past comment - it's like the old ISPs
trying to limit you to one PC per internet connection.


S.

-----Original Message-----
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alex at pilosoft.com
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:44 PM
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Double standards with netfone.ca.

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Michael Giagnocavo wrote:

> >People who use asterisk have an ability to do far more traffic *because
> >you can be multiplexing lots of customers' traffic* than just one
> >customer with a phone handset.
> >
> >-alex
> 
> Um, and your point is? Their Terms of Service should handle that. If you
> sign up for "unlimited" at $13 and then use 10K minutes, they need to
> figure that out. Just because you "might" go over the X amount of
> "unlimited" minutes is silly.
The terms of service *say that*. Got asterisk? No unlimited for you. 
Broadvoice does that. There are very few companies that *don't* do that - 
and they are setting themselves up for abuse by dishonest users.

> So, yes, charging more 'cause you use Asterisk is stupid. They should
> charge more for overuse, support, etc. They should not charge based on
> the UserAgent. That's like software vendors that charge more cause you
> are running a "server" OS.
But you can't charge for 'overuse' or 'support' when your main business
model is to provide 'unlimited residential service'. You have two classes 
of users: ones that fit your business model (grandma with an ATA) and ones 
that don't (asterisk noob). It is perfectly fine to discriminate against 
ones that are far more likely to abuse your service.

-alex

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