[Asterisk-biz] CID Spoofing

C F shmaltz at gmail.com
Thu Jul 28 07:17:18 MST 2005


On 7/27/05, Robert Goodyear <me at jrob.net> wrote:
> 
> On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Steve Totaro wrote:
> 
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <alex at pilosoft.com>
> > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> > <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 7:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] CID Spoofing
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Dovid B wrote:
> >>
> >>> Does anyone know if CID spoofing is legal ? I was thinking about
> >>> offering such services. There seems to be a big market for it. The
> >>> markup is 400%. (Costs 2 cents a minute and you can resell it for 8
> >>> cents a minute). Thanks. Dovid
> >> Ask your attorney, not the armchair lawyers on -biz.
> >>
> >> Notwithstanding, if the service is used fraudulently, and you "knew or
> >> should have known" of the fraudulent use, you could potentially be
> >> held
> >> liable for damages. So, you must screen your clients very closely.
> >>
> >> -alex
> >
> > Or not at all.
> 
> I have to pitch in here since my wife *is* an attorney...

I have no clue how the fact that your wife *is* an anttorney helps here.
For one just because you say so (on the internet, personal would be
different) doesn't mean that she is. Second, how does what you write
have anything to do with law. Third, that doesn't imply that *you* are
an attorney.


> 
> This is not a good idea for many reasons. Flipping the business model
> on its head, you really need to look at what honest purpose this would
> serve. I, for one, cannot think of one, and if the purpose of your
> product is a majority of dishonesty versus honesty, you're going to
> have a problem in court. And you WILL find yourself there at some point
> just by virtue of being a business owner. There's also another issue
> that you'd be exposing yourself to called "attractive nuisance" wherein
> if you create something that entices someone into doing something
> fraudulent or harmful to themselves or others, you're liable. End of
> story.
> 
> Sorry to be a wet blanket here, but there are plenty of good ways to
> make >400% margins in telephony. Hey, you might try starting a VoIP
> ITSP that believes in reliability and customer service... that'd make
> millions! :-)
> 
> -Rob.
> 
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