[Asterisk-biz] Message to Israel's regulator

[Yair Hakak]

no personal offense is taken. i will look into your questions and get
back to you.
and again, before ripping into me, i would invite you to find the
other regulators here and see if they are talking to the community.

-yair



On 12/17/05, David <dst_u at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Yair,
>
> I read all your posts in the list and I have to tell you that they are
> really frustrating and irritating. It's clear to me that you (and the whole
> ministry) have completely missed the point, and to consider yourselves as
> progressive is nothing more than a sad joke**. The fact that you don't
> understand why people consider (justly) that the current policies are "Cuba
> like" just demonstrates what I mean.
>
> The key reason for that is that you failed to understand what the EU
> regulators understood a long time ago:
>
> There are 2 distinct types of VoIP services:
> 1. VoIP over a private backbone (in your case HOT's and the ISPs that are
> connected to HT and to Bezeq), in which QoS is controlled by the provider is
> considered by all the "Normal" regulators as a service which requires a
> license, and is considered as a telephony service.
>
> 2. VoIP over the public Internet, which is nothing more than a value added
> service that the providers usually explain to their clients that is not a
> replacement of their fixed or mobile telephony service (that provide
> emergency services) and is usually cheaper, but is NOT regulated.
>
> We, for example, are connected to (alternate) licensed carrie rs in several
> countries (including Israel, but over IP because we are not allowed to put
> gateways in Israel) and we provide all our termination and origination
> services (including DIDs from countries much smaller and bigger than
> Israel), while using the licensed carriers routes to/from PSTN. It is in
> their interest to provide us these services, because it helps them improve
> their balance with the local incumbent.
>
> In the guidelines published last year by Ulmert, he included all the types
> of services as ones that require licenses that cost millions o f dollars.
> The only reason for that is the ability to maintain a cartel of his rich
> friends, on the backs of the paying citizens. I am in excellent contact with
> 4 of the licensed International carriers in Israel and they admitted to me
> that the result of these guidelines is exactly that.
>
> Another major problem today is your refusal (so far) to allow the licensed
> carriers in Israel to sell local price DIDs (07X or 1-709, for example) to
> overseas providers. the only numbers we can legally buy from Israeli
> carriers are 1-809s (toll free), but although some of them got both
> International and Domestic licenses and prefixes, and they are rea dy to
> sell these numbers (technically and commercially), they refuse to do it
> until they get the ministry's approval and god knows when this will happen
> with the elections coming up and the fact that Sharon is not appointing a
> minister.
>
> While we're at it, can you clarify to the list whether Delta Three's
> Jerusalem numbers that they sell everywhere for years are legal or not? If
> it is legal for them to do it, what prevents anyone of putting PRI gateways,
> connect them to Bezeq and start selling numbers, the same way they (and
> others) do?
>
> Your ministry's inability to understand the market realities and the change
> that the Internet brought to the world are the reasons I left Israel to a
> European country in which the citizens, companies and alternate local
> carriers enjoy our rates and discounts, our advanced services and our
> support and care. The ones that lost are the Israeli people that do not get
> our tax money nor are they able to benefit from our service and pricing.
>
> Let's see if you'll try (like Iran) to also block SkypeOut, Yahoo!'s,
> Sony's, MSN's and all the other providers' service from Israel or you'll
> allow clients in Israel to buy CPE VoIP gateways and to connect them to any
> International provider and to have a true choice, like they should.
>
> Take care,
>
> David (disappointed former resident)
>
> **No personal offense intended
>
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