[Asterisk-biz] Standard practice for termination?

[Matt Klein]

True, but in most circumstances, you won't get the rates that the 
middle-man gets, because of the lack of minutes, minimum commits, etc.. so 
your price will always be higher, despite the protocols used to transmit 
voice traffic.

None the less, I'd definitely advise you to keep watch of this list and 
keep a close watch on DS-3000s from Digium.. depending on what kind of LD 
you do. Hopefully, they'll do multi-DSP cards in the future, giving us 
something to work with outside of TNT's..

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Jef.Kent wrote:

> Unfortunately, with thin margins and scarcity of good quality routes to
> certain destinations, people do attempt to find out who is actually at the
> end of a route and circumvent the person in between.
>
> In certain softswitches and session controllers you can effectively proxy
> both the signalling (SIP/H.323) and the RTP stream.
>
> BTW - I have joined this list as I have a number of customers who are using
> * and I was keen to find out a bit more.
>
> JK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Schroeder" <tim at ukvoice.co.uk>
> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion"
> <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Standard practice for termination?
>
>
>> What is the problem with people "finding out who owns the IP address"?
> And
>> could you clarify what you mean by "route all media"?  Do you mean route
> in
>> the traditional IP networking sense or do you really mean proxying?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
>>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Jef.Kent
>>> Sent: 20 April 2005 19:26
>>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
>>> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Standard practice for termination?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unless you own the AS Register and are the ISP / Ripe member then
>>> you really
>>> need to route or proxy ALL the rtp.  It takes about 5 mins work
>>> (if that) to
>>> run an ethereal trace and find out who owns the IP address.  I work for
> a
>>> VoIP wholesaler - unless it is our own route end to end with our
>>> own IP's we
>>> route all media - not on *, on a Nextone, but the business
>>> principle is the
>>> same.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>>
>>> Jef Kent
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Chetan Sarva" <asterisk at fw2.net>
>>> To: <asterisk-biz at lists.digium.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:34 PM
>>> Subject: [Asterisk-biz] Standard practice for termination?
>>>
>>>
>>>> What is the standard practice for terminating SIP/H323 traffic as a
>>>> wholesaler? I'm trying to determine whether or not we should proxy
> RTP.
>>>> The advantage would be that neither party would know about the other.
>>>> Disadvantage is that it would require more resources. We could
> probably
>>>> sign NDAs/contracts all around but what are others doing?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Chetan
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