[Asterisk-biz] grnvoip.com

[Paul]

I can't find US rates either. I also would want to know 
minimum/increment and absolutely must have fractional cents billing. I 
tried it with and without my reading glasses. Maybe if I mention "clowns 
and wannabees playing ecommerce" one more time the info will appear on 
the website.

I don't intend to single out grnvoip.com with such a remark. This list 
has provided me with links to many other websites that were equally bad 
and some were much worse. I think a text-only website that is complete 
and functional impresses me a lot more than a pretender site.

But I am a mean SOB. If the pages are generated by frontpage and the 
url's end in .asp I tend to be judgemental about the company. I guess I 
prefer to do business with a company that would hire more linux geeks at 
all levels, including web design.

Moody wrote:

>Am I blind or can I not find domestic (US) rates..?
>
>On Apr 6, 2005 11:04 AM, Lee Azzarello <lee.azzarello at ps-solved.com> wrote:
>  
>
>>Looking alright here too. Firefox on Debian Testing.
>>
>>Also, would anyone know of other companies that provide termination
>>service for calls outside of the US? I'd like to do some comparison
>>shopping.
>>
>>-lee
>>
>>On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 09:44 +0100, Robert P. McKenzie wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Not sure what the problem is but it's working fine for me with Firefox
>>>and they have their rates listed on the site:
>>>
>>>http://grnvoip.com/wholesale/wrates.asp
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Paul wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Herman Webley wrote:
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 14:36 -0400, alex at pilosoft.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, Herman Webley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also they don't publish their rates. How can one give a company money
>>>>>>>for a service without knowing how much they charge for that service?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>That, by itself, isn't exactly true. None of the big boys publish
>>>>>>their rates on website, and they are no less untrusted because of that.
>>>>>>Fact is, depending on what kind of services you provide, your rates are
>>>>>>very sensitive information. Publishing rates on the website will not
>>>>>>allow you to raise rates for a customer that you know will pay extra
>>>>>>for handholding, etc.
>>>>>>-alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>This is certainly true, especially in the wholesale market. But in that
>>>>>case make personal contact with you, and rates will be discussed before
>>>>>the client jumps on board.
>>>>>
>>>>>In this case, they seem (can't tell because they only allow IE) expect
>>>>>you to fork over the dough.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards
>>>>>Herman Webley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>When a website does not work with firefox/netscape/mozilla versions less
>>>>than a year old, it tells me that they are "playing ecommerce". Clowns
>>>>and wannabees. Who cares what the rates are in that case? I don't expect
>>>>good support from a company that thinks everyone is using the same web
>>>>browser.
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>