[Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training andcertification::AstriconTraining

[steve]

You have it wrong!

First, I am not making anything off my comments.  In fact, I should be
charging attorney's fees for my advise but I am not in this case.   

Second, I don't have a gang. 

Third, start your own certification course and issue your own
certifications.   If you do then please issue me a certification so I can
hang it up on my bathroom wall.

Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Brian West
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:13 PM
To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training
andcertification::AstriconTraining

Everyone seems to have not seen the bigger picture here.  

Digium isn't behind this... They just SUPPORT IT.  That's It.  It's Steve
and the gang that are makin the buck off this.  (I'm sure Digium will make a
little).  But from what I was told they plan to franchise this so you have
to go to them and get trained to be a trainer.   Very AmWay like if you ask
me... how about a tupperware party?  

In any case my only concern was the community because we are mostly held
together with bubble gum and duct tape.

bkw

> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-
> bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of steve
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 4:29 PM
> To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion'
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and
> certification::AstriconTraining
> 
> Looks like I responded to the wrong letter.   Ok, Responding to this one.
> 
> Digium is free to charge whatever they wish.  However, anyone can open
> their
> own course and do their own certifications as long as their course is not
> using the same exact material that Digium is using.  Otherwise that would
> be
> a copyright violation without Digium's permission in writing.
> 
> A certification course from Digium is no big deal.   Most of the end users
> only care that you can install and maintain their systems.   Everything
> else
> is pure rhetoric.
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com
> [mailto:asterisk-biz-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jason Becker
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:20 AM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-biz] Asterisk training and certification
> ::AstriconTraining
> 
> steve wrote:
> > Those prices are insane.   I have been using Asterisk and have no
> intentions
> > of learning what I already know.   We have been trying to get certified
> for
> > over 4 months except no one would call us back from Digium.
> >
> >
> > Digium is finding out that their cards are not selling like they used to
> > since most people are now moving directly over to SIP from T1, E1 and
> Pots
> > lines.
> >
> > That is the problem when you go open source.  I guess they need the
> money.
> 
> Don't mean to pick on you Steve :-) but you guys should read Golden's
> "Succeeding with Open Source" before levelling this kind of criticism at
> Digium. The Asterisk Community surely has a low opinion about
> certifications but I think the announcement should be considered as an
> attempt by Digium to show the industry/analysts that Asterisk is
> maturing. You don't have to look any further than JBoss to see a similar
> consultant certification process - and one of their courses is $3250 US.
> Granted, JBoss offers their curriculum all over the world but then
> they've been at it longer than Digium has.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Jason Becker
> Director & CEO
> Coalescent Systems Inc.
> 403.244.8089
> www.coalescentsystems.ca
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